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This isn’t and end, it’s a new beginning. Talk is cheap, and if Biden wants to heal the nation he’s going to need to walk the line between disparate groups. Go back to first principles on what it means to be an American, adapt it for 2020, and make more room at the table for people who will debate and compromise instead of point and shame.

Why is this up to Biden? Why didn't Trump do this over four years?

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I'd like to open a slightly different topic here which stems though from the elections of the past 20 years. Wouldn't be a big take away now the reform of the Elector College and the shift to a direct vote from the people ? As a nonUS citizen from a country in which the head of state is being elected directly from the people, I find it very unsettling that there have been cases in which the president in US elections…

It's similar to the European Parliament, in that small member states have a small advantage over populous member states.

The whole point is to prevent Germany and France (or New York and California) from dominating everything.

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It's amazing. My friends on the left think the only reason for voting trump is racism, and friends on the right think the only reason for voting biden is socialism. Where did all the intellect go? The social dilemma documentary I think is very useful. It feels like social media bubbles are a large component, although of course there have been many contentious elections in the past. Being centrist I can relate to part…

This is a false equivalency because voting for Trump in 2020 is a demonstration of complicity with a years-long record of racist rhetoric and policies while it’s simply laughable that a Biden administration would implement anything as redistributive as the New Deal, much less hiring true socialists in the administration.

I blame Fox News for getting away with a decade of bad-faith claims of socialism towards things like mortgage assistance or Pre-K education.

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#374
An unforgettable week. An unforgettable year. The most intense and unusual — especially given the circumstances — campaign in my lifetime.

I really do hope we can come together, and put divisions aside. In real life, people have more in common than we might think based on what happens online. There are actual differences, and a lot of anger, and resentment. But what makes America special is our reimagining of democracy, every generation — something we’re all a part of, if we choose to be.

Here’s to science and civility.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#375
From a long way away, and well clear of the slings and arrows that Americans are suffering, I would like to take a fleeting moment to wish you all well.

I do think that after such a president it behoves the winners of this election to have a long hard think as to why the result was so close.

Your nation's people deserve a rest from the division you are suffering. Go well and take the opportunity to set a course that is both good for you and worthy of your immense wealth and power.

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Biden’s focus ought to be making sure a crazy person like Trump is never elected again and that if he is, that government institutions cannot be abused the way they were under Trump.

It should be made easier to prosecute a president for illegal activity.

Things like showing tax returns should be formalized.

New regulation needs to be put in place to limit the spread of falsehoods and conspiracy theories over facts.

Social media currently benefit economically from this and that has to stop. The economic incentive to spread crazy and extremist ideas has to be removed.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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post #332

I'd like to open a slightly different topic here which stems though from the elections of the past 20 years. Wouldn't be a big take away now the reform of the Elector College and the shift to a direct vote from the people ? As a nonUS citizen from a country in which the head of state is being elected directly from the people, I find it very unsettling that there have been cases in which the president in US elections…

Do not be mistaken, popular vote was one of the options considered at the beginning of the USA. It was not due to the potential for fraud. So even today, the electoral college serves as a safeguard when there is reason to believe the popular vote has been tainted. The current media narrative is there is no hard evidence, but what other evidence other than video, sworn affidavits is required? Do not be too quick to call it for Biden, not withstanding the popular vote, this probably will drag on until December despite the media attempts to end it quickly.

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#378

What is really keeping me up at night is the existential problem the US faces for the next 50 years: the ever increasingly large divide that is the polarizing of the electorate. We have to come together as Americans or someone will divide and conquer us.

Devolution of power is a solution to the polarisation. The division in the country is real and deep and in some places inconsolable, rather than just a media mirage. Rather than increasingly violent competition for the presidential office or the federal government, a more flexible union is probably a sane idea.

The US faces no threat of being conquered, it has the most powerful military and intelligence capacity in the world by a healthy margin. Insofar as foreign interference creates division, it's precisely the lack of decentralisation that makes these attacks dangerous.

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#379

Biden will be the First Democrat since Grover Cleveland to take office without a Democratic Senate. The House majority is smaller. So his mandate is effectively toast. Another interesting historical fact. America has never elected 4 consecutive 2 term presidents. If Trump would have been elected it would have been the first time in US history that this has happened. This election wasn't a blue wave by any means, Trum…

That depends on the Georgia runoffs in January. If the Dems win those two seats, then along with Harris's tie breaking vote they would have a senate majority.

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#380

While it’s true that the US government needs structural reform, the issue wasn’t anything the Constitution can fix by nibbling around the edges. The issue is that the unified Republican elite, along with > 35% of the electorate, is fundamentally lawless and anti-democratic, and will do anything it can to cheat its way into power. All three branches are implicated and have been for a while: Bush v Gore in 2000, the US…

There are still a significant minority of single issue anti-abortion voters who will support any candidate on that basis regardless of what else he does. I don't agree with them, but they exist and they are sincere in their beliefs. It's a mistake to confuse that with nihilism.
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