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The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by gwittel »

brucer wrote: post #335
oppositelock wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can speak to a few examples specifically. It's planting season now, and high business for nurseries. In Santa Clara County, they're closed by fiat. Lowe's, Home Depot, ACE hardware sell essential things (plumbing supplies, etc), so they get to remain open, in-store nurseries and all. So, if I want tomatoes, I have to brave the crowds at Lowe's instead of hopping out to my local nursery which is rarely densely popul…

I believe nurseries are open again: https://summerwindsnursery.com/ca/promotions/curbside-pickup...

Summerwinds got closed and has to do home delivery only per the site.

After an outcry Yamagami's re-opened for customers with limited hours (rate limiting, etc) this past weekend. Not sure if Summerwinds is going to get the same reprieve.

Neither is setup for online orders though. Summerwinds has a limited set of things online so you have to call. From what I've heard its very hard to get through on the phone because they're overwhelmed. I wish I could just e-mail a list and wait a week; but they're not doing that either.

Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by kvetching »

wpietri wrote: post #357
Uhhrrr wrote: post #30

San Francisco has only had 18 COVID-19 deaths in the last 30 days, and only 2 in the last week. [0] That seems amazingly low to me. I'm leaning towards thinking non-essential businesses should be opened up there, provided they function under the same restrictions as grocery stores etc. [0] https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/blob/master/csse_...

You could argue it the other way from the same data. Given that public health officials jumped on it early and got us such a low death rate, maybe we should keep trusting their judgment and let them decide when it's safe to reopen.

That's insane. If they're hesitant to open up now, they will never feel comfortable opening up.

Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by kvetching »

Lramseyer wrote: post #183

If I am reading the data correctly, considering total number of cases, and current rates of growth, the Bay Area is doing really well compared to the rest of the USA in terms of preventing the spread. [1] There will inevitably be areas that will recover sooner than others, and I could see the Bay Area being one of those places. How is the Bay Area going to handle that? Are these places going to station cops on county…

Which is why it makes no sense to continue the lockdown.

Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by walterbell »

gwittel wrote: post #371
brucer wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe nurseries are open again: https://summerwindsnursery.com/ca/promotions/curbside-pickup...

Summerwinds got closed and has to do home delivery only per the site. After an outcry Yamagami's re-opened for customers with limited hours (rate limiting, etc) this past weekend. Not sure if Summerwinds is going to get the same reprieve. Neither is setup for online orders though. Summerwinds has a limited set of things online so you have to call. From what I've heard its very hard to get through on the phone because…

Outcry from taxpayers to city officials or store management? Was that done by calling or emailing?

Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by kvetching »

Skunkleton wrote: post #283
skellington wrote: post #72

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As usual, American leaders are choosing OPTION 3 which is the worst option: OPTION 1. (SWEDEN) Control spread just enough to not overwhelm the health care system, but no more than that, in order to get to herd immunity as quickly as possible. This assumes that the area-under-the-curve will be very similar to any option that spreads the time-frame out. This level of lockdown is possible to implement for long periods o…

We already missed the boat on options 1 and 2 due to various governmental incompetencies. Did you not notice that a full third of all cases globally have been in America?

That just means that US has the most advanced testing regime.

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Post by blendo »

exhilaration wrote: post #310
hysan wrote: post #210

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It's scary. I was laid-off this month due to COVID-19. Luckily, I am getting paid for one more month because of the WARN Act. I've been looking, but it has been difficult since I'm competing with all the more senior co-workers and peers who were also laid-off. So how is my budget? * I know that there will be a time gap between being able to apply for unemployment and receiving it. The unemployment systems in the US a…

Since my wife is on my health insurance plan, COBRA is going to be very expensive. Instead of COBRA, can you get on an Obamacare ACA plan? That might be much cheaper.

On my California Kaiser plan, COBRA was about 35% cheaper than the equivalent Covered California offering.

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Post by mceachen »

malyk wrote: post #317
exhilaration wrote: post #310

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Since my wife is on my health insurance plan, COBRA is going to be very expensive. Instead of COBRA, can you get on an Obamacare ACA plan? That might be much cheaper.

you don't have to pay for cobra until you need it though, so you could get out spending $0, iirc.

At least in CA, if you opt out of COBRA, you can't opt back in later.

Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by troughway »

_xnmw wrote: post #323
hombre_fatal wrote: post #4

I'm lucky enough to have remote work. And I'm sure many HNers have a nice buffer of savings from their tech jobs to weather the storm or are getting paid time off. But can anyone share what it's like to not be in either of these situations? How are your rent lords handling things? I live abroad in a cheap country so I can handle zero income, but I wouldn't be able to last long if rent was $2000+/mo instead of the Yet…

Where on earth are you paying $200/mo for rent?

Eastern Europe? Asia?

Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May

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Post by justin66 »

malyk wrote: post #317
exhilaration wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since my wife is on my health insurance plan, COBRA is going to be very expensive. Instead of COBRA, can you get on an Obamacare ACA plan? That might be much cheaper.

you don't have to pay for cobra until you need it though, so you could get out spending $0, iirc.

There is a grace period before you have to start paying, and the dates should be on the letter you receive when you leave your employer. The grace period does not last forever, and when it's almost up, you need to pay several months at once to get coverage. (another comment suggests these rules might vary somewhat by state, and I'm sure that is also possible)
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