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Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Ah yes, the second tier of Carnegie Mellon and Cornell. Lol.

Second-tier compared to the world's top universities; that is, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford and their ilk. I've seen posts on this website[0] how some big tech companies almost exclusively skim off the top. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15543371

It is simply not true that big tech companies hire almost exclusively from world top 5 schools.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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That's bs. I work for a big tech company, and do interviews for them as well. Most people went either to a state school, a normal university in another country, or a small liberal arts college. Very few big tech employees have degrees from the "elite" class of universities. The same is true for interviews, the vast majority of interviews are not given to the so-called "elite" class, and the new grads I've interviewed…

True. But there are more prestigious companies than the big tech firms which do this.

The poster said "big tech companies". Presumably this means Amazon, FB, Google, Microsoft, etc.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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There is plenty of work, why focus so much about the big tech companies? The notion that you have to jump through hoops to get a tech job is pretty ridiculous. If you know your stuff you’ll have no trouble to find a job even without a degree from a fancy school.

because the bug tech companies are more likely to pay big $$. There's a huge gap in salary potential between FAANG and the rest. There's always outliers among the rest, but that's generally the case. So if you're optimizing for $$ and prestige, you optimize for getting into FAANG.

I've worked at two of "FAANG" and know enough people at two of the others (all but Netflix). The vast majority of Americans at all those companies went to mediocre public universities. (I don't know enough about foreign educational credentials to judge whether that's true of non-Americans).

The notion that FB/Amazon hire primarily from the top 5 universities is so totally unrelated to reality that I feel like I'm watching people discuss the consequences of the fact that the earth is flat.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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So absurd that college admissions care about your hobbies etc. If they want to receive public funding they should have to only consider academic performance, maybe with some weighting for life circumstances. Are we missing out on the most qualified mathematicians and doctors because they didn't attend volunteer programs and play sports?

I think it's because at the top level, everyone already has perfect grades so schools need additional criteria to limit their selection pool.

Then the grading system should be changed so it's not as easy to get perfect scores and a bunch of people aren't clustering at the top.

Somehow this is made to work in other countries. Many of them have competitive university entrance exams where people are ranked in order, and nobody or nearly nobody gets a perfect score.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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This generation has fully internalized consumer capitalism. Music is about success, not dropping out. Edit : See e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22985678 in this thread.

This. Capitalism and consumerism reign. Nobody is interested in “fighting the machine” or even aware of what it is.

I receive plenty (and expected) downvotes any time I mention fighting 'the man/machine'...this is simply NOT the audience for such content. Indeed, there are few places on the interwebs where this is even welcome. It is still a struggle even in the venues the discussion is welcome, especially if you're 'a Boomer' or GenX'r...we are just the wrong tribe at present.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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This was my first thought.

Mine too! It's crazy that almost a century of human history might have been so fundamentally influenced by this one invisible factor.

Makes you wonder what other hidden environmental factors might be affecting us.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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16-year-old here. My experience is probably markedly different from most teenagers in the US (I'm an immigrant who goes to a competitive school full of other immigrants) but I find that, for the most part, this article hits the nail on the head. High School is nothing like the usual media portrayal - I've never heard anyone even talk about a party, nobody's doing anything stronger than weed, nobody's fucking or even…

> but the "second-tier" schools (Carnegie-Mellon, Rensselaer, Duke, Cornell, etc.) Odd how the perception among high schoolers differs from that of industry. In the software engineering industry, CMU is considered top-tier, along with a few others probably not on this group’s radar like University of Washington. Also, fwiw, Cornell is Ivy League too, and afaik Duke is considered effectively same tier as Ivy League.

Carnegie-Mellon and U of Washington (UW) are both top 10 for CS programs, so that's not surprising. I imagine high schoolers who are CS applicants are well aware of this fact.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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I would be interested to know what teen film people consider most representative of their experience. I love “Dazed and Confused” because it seems like the archetypical US high school experience. I was shocked that the director intended it to convey the boredom of that lifestyle because it seemed approx 1000 times more exciting that my teenager lifestyle in the 00s. American Pie was popular at that time but faaar fro…

I would have to recommend watching Exam (2009)[1]. Being a teenager these days feels like taking an exam where the questions are invisible; everyone is suspicious of or hates you; the timer is ticking down in front of you; and you're constantly being monitored by the cameras whilst simultaneously having to find ways to game the system.

1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exam_(2009_film)

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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post #27

16-year-old here. My experience is probably markedly different from most teenagers in the US (I'm an immigrant who goes to a competitive school full of other immigrants) but I find that, for the most part, this article hits the nail on the head. High School is nothing like the usual media portrayal - I've never heard anyone even talk about a party, nobody's doing anything stronger than weed, nobody's fucking or even…

I wish adults understood the realities of being young in 2020. Even when I graduated HS in 2007 I could tell my experience and the academic expectations I needed to live up to were much higher than it was for my mom. After I graduated I saw younger friends take more AP classes than I did and do more leadership activities than I did. Expectations are always ramping up. It is no party. Our laws and bureaucracies haven’…

Lifespan productivity, from teens upward, has increased, but rewards haven’t kept up. And why should those rewards keep up, when the status quo already creates an environment of increased competition with small financial reward changes. This does create a set of negative externalities though, which one can begin to observe in increasing stress, lower sex drive among 20 year olds, deteriorating social safety nets of retirement for future generations, increased levels of student debt coupled with lower first-time home buyers, entrepreneur rates that haven’t kept up and greater number of companies consolidating. There has been a lot of costs to the centralized gains born from social and material pressures that have been the boon of previous decades/generations. The bill is overdue.
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