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> The only thing Google Docs has over MS is the collaboration. As someone who has had to build relatively complex tools in both Sheets and Excel, I would have to say Sheets has done a much more impressive job with their builtin formulas/functions than Excel.
I can't comment on that because I rarely use Sheets or Excel. I think my usage of Sheets is `=SUM...` :D
Zoom have responded very quickly to the complaints levelled against them. Their problems are more PR than techinical now.
How do people feel about BlueJeans?
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I great worry that China's intelligence service has the zoom traffic of American's routed to the Chinese zoom servers, so they can intercept.
Yes, but why does it matter if China intercepts your American school children? Why would they want to? That's not a reasonable threat model.
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It still leaks information. How many kids you have, their name, some things about their personality, who they are friends with, etc. Think about how someone who wants to hurt or control you could could use that information.
You seriously think the Chinese government is going to stoop to K&R with random Americans? The Chinese government is the last entity I'd be worried about with this kind of information (unless, of course, you live in China). Certain criminals in your own country are a much bigger concern.
This is similar to the concern some of us had over giving local government departments access to our full Opal card public transport travel histories here in Australia. Not all government employees are up to no good, but some are. Don't give them more than they need.
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I'm not sure why you worry about that. It's guaranteed they have it and use it. You should worry about "is it a problem for me that the Chinese government and Chinese companies have access to my video meeting streams" If yes: do not use Zoom right now. If no: do what you want.
If China wants to waste its resources having people spy on me on Zoom while I play board games with friends on it, then this seems like a good thing to me. But I wouldn't use it for work meetings.
(disclaimer: I work at El Goog) A number of companies have rightfully banned Zoom's native apps, given how insecure they are. I had previously uninstalled it when the news about the secret web server they install came out. Google is still allowing use of the web app, but the web app bizarrely doesn't support Grid/Gallery View, which is the main reason my friends/family wanted to use it. Hangouts Meet was optimized fo…
WeChat now often pops up a notice when you try to use web.wechat.com that translates to "For your account safety you cannot use the web version, and you need to download a Windows or Mac client."
Safety my ass -- web is the safest. I know better than you about my safety, Tencent.
(disclaimer: I work at El Goog) A number of companies have rightfully banned Zoom's native apps, given how insecure they are. I had previously uninstalled it when the news about the secret web server they install came out. Google is still allowing use of the web app, but the web app bizarrely doesn't support Grid/Gallery View, which is the main reason my friends/family wanted to use it. Hangouts Meet was optimized fo…
"Employees who have been using Zoom to stay in touch with family and friends can continue to do so through a web browser or via mobile." (Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)
Does Google usually dictate which products you can and cannot use in your personal life and free time? Why was this statement needed?
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Yeah this should be higher. Also work @ G, and it's just the desktop version of the app that's been disallowed. We can still run the Zoom web app on corp machines.
I hope we can stop and appreciate for a moment how clear and well-understood this direction is at a tech company. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to explain to a school or other company that they can use the web app but not the desktop app.