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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by QasimK »

askmike wrote: post #362
watt wrote: post #356

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The problem is that if Firefox is getting this default wrong, what else are they getting wrong? And it should realize user state is sacred, I would even expect if I quit browser with something written in the address bar (or search bar, etc), when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input!

I'm very happy that when I close my browser it kills all my tabs. If I really want something back I just view it from the history. > I would even expect if I quit browser with something written in the address bar (or search bar, etc), when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input! I'm pretty sure no one expects nor wants this. You're definitely in a minority here. The problem you…

I’m pretty sure watt is right...

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Post by rendaw »

cjcampbell wrote: post #140
sombremesa wrote: post #96

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I love using Firefox as my daily driver, and I can always pop open chrome if I really have to. What kind of life do you lead where your browser needs to have CORS constantly disabled?

This can be helpful in development scenarios. I’m supporting a team that uses localstack to support local development against some AWS services. Unfortunately, the CORS settings for localstack break the development environment. With Chrome allowing them to disable from the command-line, I can provide a shortcut to launch with degraded security, no plugins, no user settings, etc. My only wish is that Chrome would make…

I set up a separate profile for debugging stuff - you may want to do this anyway since you'll be free to install development extensions willy nilly.

Then you can change the theme for that profile which makes it obvious which instance you're using.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by cm2187 »

feanaro wrote: post #320
eksemplar wrote: post #270

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I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

> I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while. This gets said often, but I've been using Firefox continually since 2003 and I've never noticed it sucking.

I switched from Chrome to Firefox after the google login controversy, and have been happy with the transition too.

The only only thing that really annoys me is that when you snap a tab out of a window into a new window, the gesture is similar with snapping a tab into the favorite bar, and I end up with lots of "New Tab" or other unwanted favorites.

Also a small personal annoyance. I got into the habit of always launching the browser by clicking the shift key on the windows task bar icon, so that I always get a new window, irrespective of whether some session is already running or not. But in firefox, when no session is running, launching with the shift key pressed results in the "safe mode" prompt. I wish there was a way to disable that.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by QasimK »

yorwba wrote: post #341
lorenzhs wrote: post #319

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Yeah, but the indicator that you’re using such a bookmark when typing “wp Foo” in the address bar is really poor. When you use the OpenSearch search engine integration you can also set a keyword but it’s highlighted properly. Downside is that you need to enable the separate search bar to get the option to add a site’s OpenSearch provider when visiting it because the small looking glass gets a tiny plus you need to cl…

> Downside is that you need to enable the separate search bar to get the option to add a site’s OpenSearch provider when visiting it because the small looking glass gets a tiny plus you need to click. Nope, you can just right-click the site's own search bar, which is how I've been doing it forever.

I think that adds it as a bookmark which is not the same thing as an OpenSearch provider because it doesn’t give you the blue highlight when searching with it.

Actually this is exactly what lorenzhs said, and it is my experience too. I know this because I spent half an hour trying to get a “blue search” for BBFC.

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Post by nindalf »

11235813213455 wrote: post #292
eksemplar wrote: post #270

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I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

In Firefox it requires a space instead of a tab. I search wikipedia and google like "w foo" and "g bar" respectively.

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Post by mathw »

watt wrote: post #356
sveme wrote: post #342

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That's a setting in both browsers. Default is "Start with Startpage or empty page" in both browsers as well. You can always select "Restore last session" in both browsers.

The problem is that if Firefox is getting this default wrong, what else are they getting wrong? And it should realize user state is sacred, I would even expect if I quit browser with something written in the address bar (or search bar, etc), when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input!

I'm sure I remember Chrome not preserving session state as its default setting either. It's been so long since I configured either of them though...

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Post by yorwba »

bhauer wrote: post #147
atombender wrote: post #35

I'd like to use Firefox. I've tried it out several times the last year. It's okay. Unfortunately, I always end up going back to Safari. Despite the performance improvements, Safari still feels like a faster, smoother browser. Firefox is still pretty ugly, too. On macOS, it feels chunkier and less natively integrated. Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the…

> Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the time. Wikipedia is a major one. Start typing "Richard Fey", for example, and the first hit will be the Wikipedia page for Richard Feynman, complete with a short summary and photo. Firefox forces me through a Google search. I don't use a Mac, so I am not sure if there are other features of the Safari omnibar which ar…

> but I have another that does a Wikipedia search if I don't feel like typing the whole name of an article.

You don't really need two bookmarks for that. Wikipedia will redirect to the article if the search string happens to be exactly the same.

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Post by Kliment »

viswaprasath wrote: post #263
EpicEng wrote: post #95

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DevTools are lacking and they broke a ton of add ons with the API update (with no simple way to side load.) I can't use it. I tried again about five months ago and, one two machines, pages would stutter as I scrolled. Not worth my time to mess around with.

Would love to know your favorite add-ons that are broken and not available in AMO for FF57+ some of the contributors during their free time working on to bring extensions. can you share link or about the addon ( https://github.com/firefox-addons/ideas )

Session managers no longer work reliably since the apis for reading and writing tab and window state are not exposed. This is the biggest one for me. Also vertical tabs addons have been fighting an uphill battle.

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Post by unixhero »

fl0wenol wrote: post #261
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I donated to the Mozilla Foundation today when I heard about this trend coupled with the rumor of Edge's sunsetting. Even if the money is simply spent on marketing, I think that could be a good thing.

Marketing should not be underestimated.

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Post by chalst »

keithnz wrote: post #165
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I like firefox, and use it a lot at work as generally my main browser with DDG as the , but I end up going back to chrome quite a bit Things that bug me - For some reason often when I have quite a few tabs, open link in new tab stops working, the tab appears then disappears instantly, oddly if I use Vimium to open the tab in a new link it works. Mostly I use Vimium so this is not too much of a problem - Copy pasting…

Firefox Containers really do allow you to limit the amount that data leaks.

https://medium.com/firefox-test-pilot/firefox-containers-are...

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