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Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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Plus they tend to block the ports you need to run something like this.

Each Helm gets its own gateway server with static IP address that the Helm establishes a VPN connection with. Port 25 is open on the gateway and the packets are forwarded to the Helm. This is how we work around residential ISPs blocking port 25.

This doesn't necessarily mean you're not violating their ToS.

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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I personally like very much the solution, but I don't like having one more device on my table.

PS: For some reason, people are willing to pay more and see more value on "physical things" than virtual solutions. Anyone knows the psychology behind this behaviour?

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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Don't most ISPs ban residential accounts from running something like this? Comcast terms: > use or run dedicated, stand-alone equipment or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises local area network (“Premises LAN”), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited equipment and servers include, but are not limited t…

I'm so glad to be living in Europe. When it comes to consumer internet services, the US is a 3rd world country, which is kinda odd considering most of the western world does their business there. I just checked the terms on my 300/300 fiber connection, as well as my (backup, company paid) 25/5 ADSL. They're almost identical: * no spamming. * no racism/unethical behavior. * no portscanning. * no illegal downloads/uplo…

I'm so glad to be living in Europe.

Germany's third biggest city, I can only get 50/10 Mbit, maybe 100/20 - no fiber in sight. No static IP and no guarantees anyone will accept mail from this dialup subnet.

/s

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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Don't most ISPs ban residential accounts from running something like this? Comcast terms: > use or run dedicated, stand-alone equipment or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises local area network (“Premises LAN”), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited equipment and servers include, but are not limited t…

In my country, ISPs block SMTP outbound traffic by default but you can toggle it yourself. I thought it was pretty universal behavior. I mean, if you're using your actual domestic line to send spam, it'll be reported to your ISP pretty fast.

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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Or Homebox: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox Ansible, yaml config, I think only a single domain.

Now this is interesting... Appreciate it

Or https://www.iredmail.org/ or https://cloudron.io and https://mailcow.email/

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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Don't most ISPs ban residential accounts from running something like this? Comcast terms: > use or run dedicated, stand-alone equipment or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises local area network (“Premises LAN”), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited equipment and servers include, but are not limited t…

One of the reasons you need net neutrality.

Frightening to see this downvoted here.

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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I'm so glad to be living in Europe. When it comes to consumer internet services, the US is a 3rd world country, which is kinda odd considering most of the western world does their business there. I just checked the terms on my 300/300 fiber connection, as well as my (backup, company paid) 25/5 ADSL. They're almost identical: * no spamming. * no racism/unethical behavior. * no portscanning. * no illegal downloads/uplo…

>no racism/unethical behavior That seems to have potential for abuse.

I don't think any ISP has any control (or terms) about it. It's just that law enforcement agencies can ask them for logs on that basis. Whether or not hate speech laws can/are abused is a different thing. But it's a general legislation problem, not a net neutrality one.

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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Yeah, as somebody who has run their own mail server for years, #1 is a huge concern. It has been a real struggle for me despite having a server I own in a rack with net-neighbors I know. Another big one for me is the failure modes. What do I do when my home connection is down? How about when my connection is down and I'm traveling? What happens when the hardware fails? How about when the hardware fails 5 years from n…

> Another big one for me is the failure modes. What do I do when my home connection is down? How about when my connection is down and I'm traveling? What happens when the hardware fails? How about when the hardware fails 5 years from now? This is the big obstacle preventing me (and I assume others) from moving away from cloud. Cloud services just work , everywhere, all the time (effectively). I'd love to get the priv…

Yeah. Even though I've had my own collocated hardware since Bubble 1.0, I'm looking to move all of that to the cloud. When your own hardware works, it works reliably for years. But when something breaks it's an urgent fire drill, [1] and I'm entirely over those.

[1] Unless you have warm spares for everything, but that means you're paying twice as much and still will have a non-urgent fire drill to replace the failed hardware so you're back to n+1.

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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This is a valuable and useful criticism and we're going to talk about this at our next board meeting. How do you know who to trust? You surely have to trust someone. It feels generally true that we can trust Apple since we pay them for hardware and their ongoing business interest is in protecting their revenue streams through their hardware and iOS app store, which means you are aligned. Generally for Helm that's a g…

So, we're in agreement that this sort of thing should 1) be paid for, 2) not readable by the provider, and 3) maintenance-free for the user. I still don't understand why this is a hardware play. There are advantages to owning the hardware but none of those advantages seem to apply here. The hardware feels like a bit of an albatross.

I don't see how we should automatically trust them because we "own" the hardware. If its not open source and able to be verified by third parties, what does it matter if we have the "keys"? $500 for proprietary hardware just seems odd considering the goal here.

Re: Helm: Personal Email Server

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> hey jawns, great question. I'm Giri Sreenivas, co-founder and CEO of Helm. To answer your question, ISPs block port 25 and email service providers typically reject emails coming from residential IP blocks. > To build a plug and play solution, we knew that our server could not require listening for inbound connections on a residential internet connection. So we set about looking into how we could route traffic to an…

Gray area IMHO. Isn't Dropcam basically a server streaming video to my phone?

I'm pretty sure that video feed is actually sent to your phone through a Dropcam cloud server. Your Dropcam is a client which connects to the cloud server, as is your phone.
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