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Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by btowngar »

d1zzy wrote: post #220
btowngar wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you move to another country and you still hold a Green Card, you must file US income tax returns as well - it's not just for citizens. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/freq... "if you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien living outside the United States, your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you live"

Yes, but terminating your GC status is much more easier than relinquishing your citizenship. After all, the visa is designed for that (to be something that you hold on to while in the US and give up when not maintaining permanent residency status anymore).

For sure - my comment was just referring to the often mistaken belief that a GC holder doesn't need to pay tax on income earned outside of the US.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by __jochen__ »

pandapower2 wrote: post #306
HumanDrivenDev wrote: post #187

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The same reason not every "I'm totally moving to canada/australia/new zealand/europe" liberal in the US can do so. Immigration laws.

I'm not even sure immigration laws have much to do with it. I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of people never get as far as finding out what the other country's immigration laws are.

I imagine people are vaguely aware of the degree of difficulty for different countries, but your point stands that most people with a reasonable standard of living prefer to avoid the upheaval of emigrating.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by __jochen__ »

bdamm wrote: post #282
__jochen__ wrote: post #238

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Unfortunately for you, your conservative peers in the US don't want foreigners like you to immigrate.

I don't know why you're being downvoted. It's totally on point. And there's a subtle point too; conservatism reduces opportunity and there's not much evidence that American conservative values have anything to do with good American wages. In fact, on a state by state basis, the opposite is true.

I think one angle the parent may have intended is that immigration increases labour supply and thus depresses wages. This argument ignores the fact that immigration generally grows an economy and in many countries it's a critical driver. This goes doubly for highly skilled immigration - particularly in the tech industry. I've worked with extremely talented folks who'd come to the US from all over the world, raising the bar at the world's top tech companies. Anyone who's worked in these companies will tell you that it's the quality bar that's the biggest constraint on hiring. SV is a concentrator of technical talent - one of the reasons the ecosystem works so well (the other is access to capital).

Beyond that, I'd find it surprising that progressive policy should depress wages - conservative economic stance typically weighs in favour of Capital.

The ultimate irony of the parent post is that the values he strongly identifies with are those that thwart his dearest wish. Emblematic of the human condition?

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by gspetr »

phakding wrote: post #243
gspetr wrote: post #225

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The "google truck engineer" story proves otherwise: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-employee-lives-in-tru...

One story doesn't make a pattern.

You never made an argument about requiring one in the first place.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by nambit »

techie128 wrote: post #341
nambit wrote: post #256

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How does your wife get to 350K+ annually on an H4? That's insane.

What about it is insane? Do you think H4 EADs are only for low paid jobs or for people who have no job prospects to undercut wages in the IT sector? She is a highly qualified engineer. She works for FANG in the Bay Area and is on a high growth trajectory. What is insane is that people like her and me will take our multi-million dollar assets and exit the United States because this government is so hostile towards imm…

Since H4 is not tied to a job, it's just a bit weird to me that you can have any long term prospects on it. But fair play.

You pay taxes that highly because you're compensated that highly. Don't be under any illusions, you and every high earner in this country is UNDER TAXED. In any european country, you would be paying a LOT MORE in taxes on a similar income.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by 3pt14159 »

abrichr wrote: post #330
3pt14159 wrote: post #317

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Dude I just got into a new place at Dovercourt and Dundas. I'm on the second floor of desirable house paying $850 CAD ($650 USD). Yes you can spend $3k CAD on a shiny new two-bedroom midrise condo if you want to, but that's the exception. Most people live in places that cost between $600 to $1200 per person. Max $2k ($1.5k USD) if you live alone. Nobody I know is paying $400 in heating. That's northern Ontario electr…

> You're missing my point. I was making $200k+ at 27 in 2012. In Toronto? I hope you don't mind my asking: doing what?

Sorry for the delay, I was Chief Data Scientist at a really hot startup.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Post by abrichr »

3pt14159 wrote: post #377
abrichr wrote: post #330

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> You're missing my point. I was making $200k+ at 27 in 2012. In Toronto? I hope you don't mind my asking: doing what?

Sorry for the delay, I was Chief Data Scientist at a really hot startup.

Is that total comp or salary? Any tips for negotiating for above-market compensation?
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