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Microsoft acquires Github
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Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#372People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
Microsoft hasn't changed at all. Here is one recent incident I read: https://twitter.com/jamiebuilds/status/1002696910266773505
I've seen this multiple times, and Everytime I want to know why they didn't simply diff the code - some proof is better than none, right?
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
So which company would you rather buy Github? GitHub wasn't profitable. Would you rather it just disappear?
Interesting, where are the financials for GitHub available? What sort of deficit were they running? I think the answer would be 'a company without a history of ruining things one loved' -- my recent experience of Microsoft is very negative too (though I've seen some awesome tech demos of their's). GitHub being unprofitable makes the situation worse because one knows then MS intend to make major changes: either to des…
Tell that to Youtube. Youtube has never made a dollar in profits. Did Google destroy it as soon as they acquired it in 2008?
No: Google is propping it up as a loss-leader and incentive to sweeten the deal by bundling their other more profitable services.
We can expect Microsoft to do the same thing: Github will still lose money, but it will integrate with VScode and Azure and OWA and they'll offer on-prem installations for enterprise customers who are already paying for those other profitable services.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#374People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
Killed Nokia? Nokia is still alive. But it's not like it was doing well before Microsoft bought them.
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Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.
As a developer Microsoft has treated my far better than any other corporation pushing an agenda. Amazon seems kind of apathetic towards any one developer or group, Google and Apple can be down-right hostile in their policies or support. Microsoft has by far hosted the most events that I have access to, ranging from global developer conferences to user-group meetings.Their tooling and developer support has always been…
How did they treat Windows Phone developers?
How did they treat Nokia employees?
Mhmmm.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#376People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
Why should I care that they "killed" Nokia. (It still sells products, by the way.)
Nokia, isn't a person. It's another corporation. Patents racketeering...this is literally only going to be fixed with legislation. I'm all for it. There is no such thing as a corporation that won't chase every dollar that it can. That's what they do. Want to stop patent BS? Remove the incentives through legislation.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.
RHAT is about making money too. They do a good job of it. Unlike Microsoft, however, they can't seem to make GUIs where the font metrics are right (eg. can you read the text properly or does the text overlap or end up being too big or too small for the space?) or scrollbars. Linux is a winner for server apps but on the desktop it seems to get worse over time, not better.
>Linux is a winner for server apps but on the desktop it seems to get worse over time, not better.
No, not really. The problem is too many people (like you maybe) associate "Linux desktop" with "Gnome (3)". That's false; there's a bunch of different DEs for Linux. Just look at Xfce; it isn't getting worse. KDE seems to be getting no worse too.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#378Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right, but my understanding is they are not profitable (they were, but have been trying to work back toward profitability).
Why did GitHub become unprofitable? Did they spend too much money hosting open-source projects, compared to what they made on private repos? Maybe the lesson is that free hosting never works.
No, that’s not why.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#380This feels like Slashdot from 10 years ago. I thought the anti-Microsoft sentiment had dissipated, but clearly that’s not the case. I was a Microsoft focused developer through the bad years and even I thought they acted horribly against Netscape. They ended up paying a billion dollars for it and we’re forced to change. I wasn’t a fan of Ballmer either and thought MS had lost its way. Windows Phone started off nice bu…
>I judge companies on current behavior and Microsoft seems to be doing far more right than wrong.
This isn't about behavior. This is about product management. As a reminder, Microsoft's current products include TFS (and I don't mean just TFSVC) and Teams.