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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Post by mr_toad »

skrebbel wrote: post #156
buro9 wrote: post #55

I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

Can someone explain this tweet to me? > But when @netflix and other content providers decline the use of their apps outside of integrated devices this is the hell we live in. I don't understand. I can just open a web browser on a little media center PC, connect it by HDMI, point it to Netflix and play a movie, right? (Admittedly I haven't tried because our Panasonic has Netflix and no ads or spy apps that I've notice…

Fortunately, there are 4K torrents.

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Post by blitmap »

It's becoming almost necessary to have a wireless router that supports having a guest network where connected guests can't "talk to each other". The frustrating part is my Linksys has a captive portal rather than asking for password the traditional way, so I can't join some of my "smart" appliances to the guest network. This is somewhat irrelevant to the post, but I try to keep all the untrusted devices on a separate network. I don't want them talking to the devices I trust or learning from each other and becoming "smarter". It just stinks that it's getting harder to find dumb devices with a focused use - they all want to be tablets.

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Post by ouid »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #355
jra_samba_org wrote: post #346

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Please don't call Samba.tv just 'Samba'. We (the Samba project) have trademark on Samba, which is for the file server, authentication and print server that runs on Unix boxes and allows interoperability with Microsoft Windows. Samba.tv is... Something else. It has nothing to do with us.

Have you considered a cease and desist? I think the name is sufficiently similar to cause confusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement

>"Infringement may occur when one party, the 'infringer', uses a trademark which is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark owned by another party, in relation to products or services which are identical or similar to the products or services which the registration covers"

this basically means that in order to have an infringement case, you need to show that both the name/brand/logo are confusingly similar, and also that the product/service/domain are close enough to each other. I don't know that "software" is a sufficiently narrow category to count.

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Post by BoorishBears »

delecti wrote: post #270
BoorishBears wrote: post #202

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Mentioned it in a comment below, but they’re very coming soon: https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/bfgd-big-format-g...

Those have smart features embedded.

Given the marketing, and the fact OEMs are probably implementing the standard with their own designs, they’ll like be fairly vanilla monitors with a separate interface for the Shield features

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Post by ryandrake »

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #116

I would like to see a TV with the following attributes: 1. 8 Inputs, with at least four HDMI and one HDMI accessible from the front panel. The remaining inputs would have at least two composite inputs. There would be no cable input since most cable companies, around here anyway, require a set-top box anyway. 2. An optical audio output, for those who wish to hook up a proper audio system. Those who don’t would get ok-…

How about just a single power input and a single HDMI input? No speakers, no input switching, no tv tuner (I have separate components for all these that will do a better job). No smart anything, no networked anything. Literally a big monitor.

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Post by eilyra »

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #232
cup-of-tea wrote: post #190

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What you're describing is a monitor. A big, good looking monitor. That's all I want too. The interface on my (non smart) TV is unbearably slow and I don't want to use it. Unbelievably, the interface on the last "smart" TV I tried, which costs 5x as much, is even slower. I cannot stand using tools that can't keep up with how fast I think.

Yes, exactly. Living room monitors need to become a thing.

They kind of are a thing, there's the LG 43UD79-B[1] which is a 43" UHD monitor. Not the biggest screen, but decently sized and it advertises a 5ms GTG response time which should be adquate for monitor like use.

[1] http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-43UD79-B-4k-uhd-led-monitor

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Post by chiefalchemist »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #322
ReverseCold wrote: post #234

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Google Android tracks you the most. How do I even turn off location services without breaking Android Device Manager? I have location history off but I still get notifications from maps that say things like "X place you're at is popular, click here to see reviews or something"

You've intentionally confused several things. 1. You don't need to use Android Device Manager. Unlike iOS, Android gives you a choice of device finders. 2. Location services is different from location history. Location services is an AGPS service that does not track anything tied to your account. iOS does the same thing, and worse, used to send your location to a third party AGPS provider (Skyhook). 3. Google Maps is…

If it's Maps then I presume it is aware of Google's knowledge / collecting of hotspots and is then able to guess where you are. Probably some other voodoo as well. Point being, even with location off you're still trackable.

If you turned off wifi so you think that would help?

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Post by TylerE »

ouid wrote: post #373
duncan_bayne wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered a cease and desist? I think the name is sufficiently similar to cause confusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement >"Infringement may occur when one party, the 'infringer', uses a trademark which is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark owned by another party, in relation to products or services which are identical or similar to the products or services which the registration covers" this basically means that in order to have an infringement case, you need to show tha…

"Software" is a a WAY narrower category than, say, Cars vs Washing machines.

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Post by ramphastidae »

You can easily buy a high quality dumb TV in 2018. I just did it last year. It took me ten minutes of research. I saved hundreds of dollars over and enjoy many more streaming features than the equivalent smart TV by hooking up an old laptop via HDMI.

Here it is: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-43-class-fhd-1080p-led-tv...

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Post by nvahalik »

ramphastidae wrote: post #379

You can easily buy a high quality dumb TV in 2018. I just did it last year. It took me ten minutes of research. I saved hundreds of dollars over and enjoy many more streaming features than the equivalent smart TV by hooking up an old laptop via HDMI. Here it is: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-43-class-fhd-1080p-led-tv...

We bought a dumb TV on sale for $175. 50 inch, too!
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