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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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TechCrunch and Gizmodo just picked up the story:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/15/mozillas-mr-robot-promo-ba...

https://gizmodo.com/mozilla-slipped-a-mr-robot-promo-plugin-...

Also AFAIK the second link has the first official response of any kind? "A representative told Gizmodo the company is looking into the issue."

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Wow, FF is sniffing the content and changing words. Could not think of anything worse a web browser could do. Do they change political arguments on pages in the future to see how I react in a user study? Signed Mr. Guinea Pig

That's ridiculous, since FF is literally fetching and rendering that content, being its raison d'être. You can't "sniff" what is already yours to begin with.

Sniff implies sending. It's the scanned content transportation and destination that's the issue.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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The major problem was building a feature into the product that allowed for pushing add-ons without users knowledge much less active consent in the first place, there is no benign use for this kind of functionality.

You could use add-ons to manage optional functionality a la Atom. Users can enable and disable add-ons to customize their browser and some come enabled by default. If you were migrating to this method of customization it would absolutely make sense to push an enabled add-on that replaces functionality you took out of the main app.

Why is this downvoted?

It sounds like a valid reason for being able to auto-install add-ons.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Many people seem to be shocked because Mozilla installed an add-on automatically. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter since the code is coming from Mozilla - they're building the whole browser, so they could introduce functionality anywhere. If someone distrusts their add-ons, why trust their browser at all? The main question is what behavior is being introduced. I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the ad…

Dumping odd stuff that's not clearly from Mozilla and is poorly explained, without warning, is a fast road to lost trust.

I'm using Firefox 57 heavily (typing this in it), and actually really like it for a change. This after years and years and years and years of wanting to like Firefox but finding it completely and absolutely unusable due to performance issues.

(Chrome has been ... faster, but insanely aggravating in all sorts of ways, including utter and complete contempt from Google and the Chrome devs for users. The frustrations are rapidly mounting.)

Mozilla have just cost themselves some portion of their advanced user test base through abuse of trust. I really wish they'd not do that.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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> I don’t see the harm in a good organization contributing lot of value to this world having a little fun. One potential downside is that now people might not pay close attention to the installed addons. "Oh, must be some Mozilla thing", as GoldenDwarf quietly consumes user CPU cycles to mine cryptocurrency for someone else.

This calls for.... anti mining extension. like adblock, miningblock.

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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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post #302

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You could use add-ons to manage optional functionality a la Atom. Users can enable and disable add-ons to customize their browser and some come enabled by default. If you were migrating to this method of customization it would absolutely make sense to push an enabled add-on that replaces functionality you took out of the main app.

Why is this downvoted? It sounds like a valid reason for being able to auto-install add-ons.

Because this is not the scenario that is being denounced here. A brand new add-on with functionality unrelated to the product is being installed without consent or even notification - that's capital M Malware peddling.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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if you're on Nightly, this is literally what you signed up for: all the experimental settings and all new functionality turned on by default so that you can be part of the test bed of users and devs that can report back to the larger developer community through Bugzilla when things aren't working the way they should be. Complaining about the fact that Nightly did exactly what it's supposed to is kind of ridiculous.

> if you're on Nightly, this is literally what you signed up for no, it is not, because i signed up for nightly a decade ago when mozilla still had my trust and admiration. i signed up to help mozilla find bugs before they hit end users. i signed up for new web platform features and bug fixes. i signed up to see the perf and ui improvements. what i get force-fed now is an additional mystery platter of ad experiments,…

There are a number of decent suggestions in the rest of this threaed, like the various un-mozilla'd versions of firefox.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Looks like it's a promo for Mr Robot, which is really not ok. > What's happening? Are you a fan of Mr Robot? Are you trying to solve one of the many puzzles that the Mr Robot team has built? You’re on the right track. Firefox and Mr Robot have collaborated on a shared experience to further your immersion into the Mr Robot universe, also known as an Alternate Reality Game (ARG). The effects you’re seeing are a part of…

Seems kind of like it is part of an ARG. I can't say I'm totally against something like that; Mozilla's gotta make money somehow, and as long as it's not selling out user privacy it's a better tradeoff than Chrome.

However they're experimenting with selling user privacy to 3rd party companies, with small percentage of users in Germany (it's enabled by default).

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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> if you're on Nightly, this is literally what you signed up for no, it is not, because i signed up for nightly a decade ago when mozilla still had my trust and admiration. i signed up to help mozilla find bugs before they hit end users. i signed up for new web platform features and bug fixes. i signed up to see the perf and ui improvements. what i get force-fed now is an additional mystery platter of ad experiments,…

There are a number of decent suggestions in the rest of this threaed, like the various un-mozilla'd versions of firefox.

a bit like saying, "your problem is your expectations about mozilla's commitment to privacy, transparency and choice"
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