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F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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It's funny, the FCC's mandate isn't to poll the public and do whatever most of them want. Strange how people seem to think it's a numbers game, at least when they feel the numbers are on their side

Logician and Philosopher Raymond Smullyan had a story about this in one of his books. He had gone on a trip with a woman with a little girl. The adults wanted to eat at colorful local cafes, while the girl wanted to eat at McDonalds. He suggested that they vote, and the little girl replied, "That's no fair. I'd lose!" Our republic isn't designed just to do what the people want. It's intentionally designed so that goo…

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This wouldn't be a problem if ISP's weren't de facto monopolies. If there was competition in this space, then there would be incentive to improve the infrastructure and Internet speeds. However, ISP's kill competition by making legal arrangements with local governments to only do business with them, and by cutting competitors' cables. Since we have no way to guarantee reasonable speeds to small time websites now, we…

I've been thinking this over for the past couple months, because I was pretty sure this would be the outcome - that we would lose our net neutrality protection. So let's play out the worse case - Comcast, AT&T etc wait out the shitstorm and then start throttling traffic and packaging the internet, releasing cable-esque "plans." Is it feasible to just start running our own fiber to hubs? I want to learn more about the…

> As a private citizen, can I purchase a bunch of land between me and, I dunno, a DNS node or whatever and just lay a super long fiber cable straight to it?

I'm sure you can, the issue is do you have a couple million $ in your bank account to do this?

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> our democracy isn't working properly Democracy doesn't work through public declarations, it works through elections. One year ago, the states chose Donald Trump as president, knowing they he would end Net Neutrality [1]. If a population wants to send a different message, they must do it in the next election [2]. [1] https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/53260835850816716... [2] https://swingleft.org/

You're just saying your democracy isn't working properly, just for different reasons. Most Trump supporters did not elect trump "knowing ... he would end Net Neutrality", and a statement from 2014 does not disprove that (a cursory glance at r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/ kinda makes the point). The US public is atrociously misinformed as a whole, either due to lack of education or bad media incentives or both. In order to f…

Thankfully we don’t live in a democracy. America is a democratic republic. As the public is naturally under-informed, this is arguably a good thing; regardless of your views on Net Neutrality.

E.g. has Trump been able to build the wall that arguably half the population approved of? No, because his budget approval process has been checked by other elected representatives.

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The Federal Communications Commission just ended net neutrality by a 3-2 vote despite a security threat that temporarily disrupted the proceedings. All this does is return things to the way they were back in 2015. You would think that with all the hysterics coming from the Jews, Silicon Valley and a variety of Marxist terrorists that this was the end of the world. It is not the end of the world. In fact, it is better that net neutrality regulations are repealed. It is interesting that the 3 men on the panel voted to repeal it and the 2 women on the panel voted against it. Women are by and large a bunch of idiots and don’t know shit about technology. Women who have tried to run large technology firms have failed. It only took Marissa Mayer a few years to destroy Yahoo and she got paid many millions of dollars for her efforts. The fact that we have women at this high of a level within the FCC is dumb beyond imagination.

Either way, it is good that net neutrality regulations are repealed. Net neutrality regulations have not prevented Internet censorship from the likes of Google, Facebook, Twitter and other Silicon Valley firms. Of course, we didn’t see any of those leftists crying as these sites banned all sorts of people from their services for political reasons.

Repealing these rules also gives more incentive to new players entering the service provider market. More competition means more choices and more options.

The Internet was a better place in 2015. It is far worse now. This is just one step that will hopefully help improve things.

These leftist retards are going to look awfully silly when they’re still able to access the web like they did prior to this decision. It is funny to see the hysterics though. There’s a community meltdown happening on Twitter, Reddit and the other safe space social media sites as we speak.

Keep crying faggots!

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Don’t relocate. Stay in your damn house. Go talk to the people who are actually running in those districts. If you can write them even the cost of a ps4, they want to hear from you. In particular for Democrats running against entrenched Republicans, these people aren’t evil corporate fat cats. They own restaurants, teach high school, are small-town mayors, or nurses. They need help to compete. The DNC is not going to…

Ahh I misunderstood what you said. I see what you mean now, but sadly I'm still salty that solution (despite being a sound one) boils down to money.

The Supreme Court has decided that in this country money=speech, so ...

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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This has made me feel pretty damn powerless, as pretty much every site/person of significance has stated their opposition to such a repeal, and yet they went through it anyway. Just a gut feeling that our democracy isn't working properly when such a loud and clear, great majority of the population messaging is completely ignored.

>Powerless Same, so as a petty man I've made a personal vow to send Ajit Pai a card every Christmas reminding him he sold his soul to Comcast and that I will never forget or forgive him for it. Totally pointless right now when the whole country is calling for his head and he gets to play the haughty "I don't give a fuck, I'm set for life now, suck it plebes" card. But in 2040, when he has long since moved on, and the…

Any way we could build this into something more large scale? How can we do this in a way that doesn't fall afoul of harassment laws?

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This has made me feel pretty damn powerless, as pretty much every site/person of significance has stated their opposition to such a repeal, and yet they went through it anyway. Just a gut feeling that our democracy isn't working properly when such a loud and clear, great majority of the population messaging is completely ignored.

Did you submit a comment on this proceeding, beyond just clicking on some site that auto-generated a comment? I spent several days working on my comment; it was a dozen pages long, it included relevant citations, and it addressed specific questions asked in the NPRM. I took the time to correct a few falsehoods in the NPRM's technical analysis. Now imagine what it is like to see that comment being specifically cited a…

The effort's appreciated. I'd commend you for it even if I disagreed with your position — to take the time to directly express concern and raise issues is key, in my opinion, to enacting real change.

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Friendly reminder that economists surveyed are far more likely to be for paid prioritization than against http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii

Did you read the wording of that survey? It's very deceptive to link responses to net neutrality. "Should companies have to pay more for faster internet speeds?" "Probably yes"

It's pretty much exactly what paid prioritization is, which is a major part of what NN bans.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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This has made me feel pretty damn powerless, as pretty much every site/person of significance has stated their opposition to such a repeal, and yet they went through it anyway. Just a gut feeling that our democracy isn't working properly when such a loud and clear, great majority of the population messaging is completely ignored.

In this instance, it's working as intended. Based on the election results, this is pretty much expected.

I suspect it's more that all the people of significance who have stated their opposition also share the same core political ideology as you, which doesn't match that of the party currently in power. So you view the system as not working because you didn't get what you wanted by having everyone on your side yell louder.

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