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Re: Tencent buys 5% of Tesla

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Post by dang »

koreyb wrote: post #344

When did it become cool to write poorly like Trump? Or vertical integration..as well as protecting Elon's investment by bailing out SCTY. It was $3.25bn because they held the note on leased systems. Under TSLA they shifted to selling solar shingles outright.

That first sentence was nasty and uncivil. Please don't post like this to HN. Then in your comment downthread you went one worse with a personal attack ("acting like a victim"), plus had the bad taste to blame someone else for your own off-topic provocation. We ban accounts that do these things, so please don't do them here. Your posts would have been just fine without those bits.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13985130 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Tencent buys 5% of Tesla

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Post by MarkMc »

MarkMc wrote: post #324
slg wrote: post #210

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I think the commitment of $1000 is overblown. What is the actual opportunity cost here? Maybe $50-$150 depending on the interest rate and time frame you want to use for your estimates. That is nothing in the scale of a car purchase and it buys you the right to receive the car several months quicker. Relatively speaking it is like someone paying $10 to have a new laptop shipped to them overnight instead of by ground e…

You are missing the psychological element. In general, people: (a) Feel a strong obligation to be consistent with past behaviour - not just in placing the deposit, but then thinking and reading about the new car design and wanting a Tesla for months or years. (b) Want to avoid admitting the 'mistake' of giving Tesla a free loan. Not just admitting the mistake to themselves, but also to all their friends they told abo…

Thinking about this a bit more, Musk should run a split test: Half the people queued for a Model 3 are offered $100 to move to the back of the queue. People who decline such an offer will feel compelled to buy the car when it is released in order to be consistent with their previous actions. I'm confident this would boost sales, but the split test would tell us for sure.

Re: Tencent buys 5% of Tesla

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Post by koreyb »

dang wrote: post #371
koreyb wrote: post #344

When did it become cool to write poorly like Trump? Or vertical integration..as well as protecting Elon's investment by bailing out SCTY. It was $3.25bn because they held the note on leased systems. Under TSLA they shifted to selling solar shingles outright.

That first sentence was nasty and uncivil. Please don't post like this to HN. Then in your comment downthread you went one worse with a personal attack ("acting like a victim"), plus had the bad taste to blame someone else for your own off-topic provocation. We ban accounts that do these things, so please don't do them here. Your posts would have been just fine without those bits. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsgui…

Cool...until it got back on topic.

Re: Tencent buys 5% of Tesla

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Post by vsl »

kayoone wrote: post #306
jaimex2 wrote: post #261

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I dont know... Tesla is currently training their driving AI using the existing fleet in shadow mode. How do you skip this step and go straight to level 4? They need months of tuning outside a lab, worldwide. A lot of car manufacturers still refuse to build an EV from the ground up. They are reusing an ICE platform and converting them to EVs. Mazda don't even acknowledge that they need to build EVs. https://electrek.c…

The german manufactures are not asleep at the wheel, get into the newest E-Class and despite it being a lot cheaper than a Model S, the self driving capabilities are impressive. Don't even let me start on the interieur quality, which is my biggest gripe with Tesla considering their price segment.

"Impressive" is not the word I'd use. If you didn't drive Model S, perhaps. Otherwise, meh.

http://www.thedrive.com/tech/4591/the-war-for-autonomous-dri...

Re: Tencent buys 5% of Tesla

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Post by michel-slm »

FireBeyond wrote: post #194
michel-slm wrote: post #109

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I'm on a work visa here in the US, and I couldn't get financing on a Volt because GM Financial insisted on doing > 30 months lease on their hybrid cars (and my work visa expires before then, though it's likely to be renewed anyway). Go figure. It's not like I can't afford the monthly payments.

Sheesh. When I bought a Prius (admittedly, 2007), I was here on a fiancee visa. Toyota Financial had no problem okaying a three year lease even though my visa was (technically) three months (but available for extension).

Ah, interesting. A colleague had a similar experience to me getting an Audi (his lease doesn't extend beyond the H-1B expiration) so I wonder if the regulation is tightened up by now.

Then again, maybe statistically people on fiancee visas are more likely to end up with permanent residency than people on H1B?

Re: Tencent buys 5% of Tesla

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Post by michel-slm »

chiph wrote: post #179
michel-slm wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on a work visa here in the US, and I couldn't get financing on a Volt because GM Financial insisted on doing > 30 months lease on their hybrid cars (and my work visa expires before then, though it's likely to be renewed anyway). Go figure. It's not like I can't afford the monthly payments.

Did you talk to an independent leasing company? You don't have to lease via the automaker. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-greatest-auto-lease-dea...

Will bear that in mind for next time, thanks! My other consideration is I am still trying to build a credit history, and don't really want more hard hits on my file than necessary...
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