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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Fogbugz seems to really be pushing their cloud stuff though, so I basically ruled it out instantly when I was researching options - it's unacceptable to have to host our code and tracker off-premises on hardware we don't control. Whereas even a small team can run JIRA or GitLab on their own hardware for a very reasonable price.

Unless there are regulatory constraints (can't expect logic there...), I don't understand this attitude. Are all your dev boxes air-gapped? If so, how do the devs use google, stack overflow, etc.? If not, how is your on-prem setup so very different than one that used SaaS?

The attitude is simple - don't give your code, and especially don't give access to your devops repositories to 3rd party companies who simply don't need it.

If a security vulnerability happens on the public Fogzbugs instance, we'd be bitten by it badly in this sort of situation. In our setup, we protect against that by exposing the JIRA webserver and git servers only inside of our private network.

It's not about perfect security, but it does greatly reduce the attack surface when the server isn't even accessible via the internet. I can't prevent anyone who wants to from signing up for the free trial of Fogzbugs and exploiting their publicly running system - even logged-in-only exploits are possible in such a case.

Not to mention the issues with downtime on these cloud providers. My provider has had 1 sizeable, noticeable outage in the last 5 years. It spanned about 20 minutes. Look at a big, popular cloud service like GitHub - they've had several in the past year alone, spanning hours at times.

I find these sorts of compromises where I'm offering my code and server configurations to a 3rd party company (where basically any admin there is free to read it, or anyone who can compromise their admins) to be rather poor. I'd rather keep the blame within my own company and be in control of our data fully rather than having to worry about whether Fogzbugs operations follows proper security precautions, I only have to worry about whether we do.

Call it paranoid if you want, but I think it's a more than reasonable precaution to not just throw your data around to anyone who asks for it. Especially data which could lead to compromise of servers and customer information. I value my customer's information much more than I value any gains from some easy to use cloud service.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

The Trellists made Trello. And the Trellists are going to keep working on Trello at Atlassian. Atlassian understands that Trello is unique and beloved and they definitely do not want to mess that up. Read this article that Jordan Novet wrote. I know seeing is believing and you will have to wait and see, but I agree with everything Jay Simons says in this interview. "During the interview, Simons took time to assure me…

I'm sure you made quite a large sum of money off of this deal, but Atlassian doesn't have a great track record of purchasing non-Atlassian products and not messing them up.

And... "Trellists?" They're just people.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I have a hard time understanding how Trello is worth that much money. Does it really cost 1/2 billion to get 19 million users and a Trello like app built? Is the Trello team really worth that much? Was Trello that threatening to Atlassian? There are a lot of there other successful collaboration SaaS out there as well (e.g. Asana). This is not like social/content services where there can only be one (or very few e.g.…

Think about this from the perspective of a purchase like Google -> Youtube.

Google paid $1 billion for Youtube. It's now conservatively worth $50 billion.

That means they could have 50 large acquisitions go to zero and still be breakeven on their Youtube deal.

You can use the same economics for most deals.

(to say nothing about consolidating the large apps in this space -- maybe Asana is next on their list?)

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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GitKraken looks promising, and introduces some new UI concepts (drag and drop merging, for example). It's still fairly young but could be a competitor.

I've been using Fork (git-fork.com), and it's fantastic. Similar UI to SourceTree on the surface, but more obvious in other ways. It's blazing fast, and the author is super responsive to requests and to make fixes.

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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The Trellists made Trello. And the Trellists are going to keep working on Trello at Atlassian. Atlassian understands that Trello is unique and beloved and they definitely do not want to mess that up. Read this article that Jordan Novet wrote. I know seeing is believing and you will have to wait and see, but I agree with everything Jay Simons says in this interview. "During the interview, Simons took time to assure me…

I'm sure you made quite a large sum of money off of this deal, but Atlassian doesn't have a great track record of purchasing non-Atlassian products and not messing them up. And... "Trellists?" They're just people.

Culture of greatness and all that, let him be.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I agree with you, to me it looks like BitBucket hasn't evolved at all in five years. The only change worth mentioning is that they made me transition to an "Atlassian account", which was as annoying as when Flickr made me create a Yahoo account.

There are a few new features over the last 5 years... * Merge checks * Build status (finally...) * Audit logs * Inline editing From: https://bitbucket.org/whats-new Nothing that keeps it above Github, but they always seem to maintain feature parity. /not a bitbucket shill //just don't like inaccurate comments.

+1

We've added 4 big features just in the last 12 months

+ Pipelines + Git LFS + Smart Mirroring + Merge Checks

More here just from Oct 2016: https://blog.bitbucket.org/2016/10/12/scaling-in-bitbucket-c...

Not to mention other features like 2FA, Projects, Snippets, Bitbucket Connect, etc. in the last 2 years

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

The Trellists made Trello. And the Trellists are going to keep working on Trello at Atlassian. Atlassian understands that Trello is unique and beloved and they definitely do not want to mess that up. Read this article that Jordan Novet wrote. I know seeing is believing and you will have to wait and see, but I agree with everything Jay Simons says in this interview. "During the interview, Simons took time to assure me…

Will the Trello/Slack integration be affected?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

The Trellists made Trello. And the Trellists are going to keep working on Trello at Atlassian. Atlassian understands that Trello is unique and beloved and they definitely do not want to mess that up. Read this article that Jordan Novet wrote. I know seeing is believing and you will have to wait and see, but I agree with everything Jay Simons says in this interview. "During the interview, Simons took time to assure me…

Right on. We are all hoping for your success in Atlassian.

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Thats about all Atlassian is good at. HipChat has become an abomination of a client across Windows and Mac. Every new release is about fixing functionality they broke with the previous release and even then it still isn't fixed. Logging in from multiple places has always been terrible. I'll be logged in on Mac and available but randomly get emails as if I'm offline. I'll be online on my phone and get e-mails. I wan't…

And don't even get me started on SourceTree. Just about every release since 1.5.2 is a disaster, to the point of almost non-usable right now.

I've been pretty happy with SourceTree. I wouldn't call myself a power user, though.

EDIT: now that I think about it, there are a few buggy things about it that are frequent but are just an annoyance, not a hindrance.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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And don't even get me started on SourceTree. Just about every release since 1.5.2 is a disaster, to the point of almost non-usable right now.

Really? I'm pretty happy with it. Definitely better than Github desktop, and more full featured than the light git extensions you find in most editors. What Git GUI do you prefer?

If you can hang with it being in emacs, magit is phenomenal and makes a lot of the harder things (rebase, conflict resolution, etc.) in git easier.

Lightning talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ccCNQaTJ10

also, if you are a vimmer use spacemacs to get out of the box, nicely configured vim.

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