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Re: Tesla footage of braking before crash ahead [video]

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Post by sangnoir »

marcosdumay wrote: post #335
sangnoir wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> yeah i try to do that but then other cars just merge in between the space i leave in front of me and force me to be on their tail. Which is perfectly fine - it's safer that way. Not wanting to feel like a 'loser' is understandable - but when it is life and limb that's on the line; I know which side I'd rather be. On the other side is road rage and stupid games of chicken with your life on the line.

How is it safe? You now have almost no distance from the car on your front, and it is almost certainly slower than you.

You brake some more.

  If following distance

Re: Tesla footage of braking before crash ahead [video]

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Post by sjg007 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

I thought this an interesting video when Elon retweeted it. Basically the car is responding faster than the people do and keeping things from escalating. That said, having been on 101 when the cars in front start dancing like that I have to say my biggest worry isn't stopping in time its having someone behind me not stop.

Good thing there are a lot of Teslas and high end cars (with auto brakes) on 101!

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Post by aidenn0 »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #308
aidenn0 wrote: post #216

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Or, you know, replace them with machines that are safer.

My point was in how we frame these things--the human relationship to technology. Specifically, it's about how we can raise the important point that humans can be made safer by technology, without it being a value statement about the human race.

I don't know how one can relate how good humans are at a task with how good a state-of-the-art machine is at a task without making some sort of value statement about the human race.

Either way there is a huge difference between "I'm fine with hurting people's feelings" and "I'm fine with killing people"

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Post by MaulingMonkey »

jfrankamp wrote: post #250
beat wrote: post #210

Yesterday, I was saying that autopiloted trucks would take over the long-haul trucking industries. This is why . Driver errors with semis on the highway kill thousands every year. This kind of technology will save lives - not just of the Tesla drivers (or other autopiloted drivers), but of the vehicles they don't hit.

No way. I use semis as a highway safety feature. They can see farther down the road and are much less likely to get in an accident statistically. When visibility is poor, I follow one (with a large follow distance).

> (with a large follow distance)

Good. Some things to keep in mind: Semis can clear obstacles you probably can't - and at least around here are trained to not break because of some road hazards. Semis are not manuverable, and if they lose a tire the last thing they want to be doing is applying a now-uneven breaking force.

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Post by disposablezero »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #116
disposablezero wrote: post #47

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Relying on error-prone, distracted, slow humans to guide massive killing machines is playing Russian roulette. AI driving will no doubt be eventually better than the best human driver within a decade, in nearly all instances.

The glorification of tech/denigration of humans juxtaposition is getting old fast. This attitude may seem benign, but it's insidious, carries a hint of elitism, and spills over into labor, class, and other aspects of human life. Why can't we appreciate tech advances without devaluing people?

Joking? People can't fly an f-16 or most rockets, but computers can. People get drunk and plow into traffic in the other direction, run over a crowd of people because they're nuts. That's the truth, get used to it.

Re: Tesla footage of braking before crash ahead [video]

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Post by unclebucknasty »

disposablezero wrote: post #377
unclebucknasty wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The glorification of tech/denigration of humans juxtaposition is getting old fast. This attitude may seem benign, but it's insidious, carries a hint of elitism, and spills over into labor, class, and other aspects of human life. Why can't we appreciate tech advances without devaluing people?

Joking? People can't fly an f-16 or most rockets, but computers can. People get drunk and plow into traffic in the other direction, run over a crowd of people because they're nuts. That's the truth, get used to it.

People also create computers.

In any case, your argument would be extremely effective--if my argument was that people are infallible.

Re: Tesla footage of braking before crash ahead [video]

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Post by disposablezero »

avar wrote: post #120
unclebucknasty wrote: post #116

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The glorification of tech/denigration of humans juxtaposition is getting old fast. This attitude may seem benign, but it's insidious, carries a hint of elitism, and spills over into labor, class, and other aspects of human life. Why can't we appreciate tech advances without devaluing people?

Because certain types of technical advancement requires an element of devaluing people. "Calculator" used to be a job performed exclusively by humans. Moving to mechanical & digital calculators didn't only require gains in efficiency, but also a recognition that this was a job humans were simply worse at than machines, so it was irresponsible to task a human with it. Similarly self-driving cars can't simply be a nice…

People tend to hate on anything which threatens their job/identity, even if it rationalizes not addressing preventable causes of million of injuries and deaths. That is the definition of a SJW.

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Post by disposablezero »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #378
disposablezero wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joking? People can't fly an f-16 or most rockets, but computers can. People get drunk and plow into traffic in the other direction, run over a crowd of people because they're nuts. That's the truth, get used to it.

People also create computers. In any case, your argument would be extremely effective--if my argument was that people are infallible.

Who cares? SJW identity politics is not an argument, it's a trolling opinion.
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