Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

Post by highmastdon » Wed, Nov 30, 2016, 9:41 PM UTC

frandroid wrote: post #324

zwischenzug wrote: post #162

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Me too. I want protection against my own stupidity, as well as sheer ignorance of the charges. This put me off AWS for years, and I was deeply shocked there was no one-click 'suspend at x$'. For a company that supposedly puts the customer first, this is appalling.

Sounds like a good business idea. Pay $10-50 a month for us to automatically disable your services which go over your stated budget. Free tier at 1 service.

Post by berns » Wed, Nov 30, 2016, 9:43 PM UTC

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Curious, why don't you compare with known "non-cloud" hosting companies too, that provide vps services, like ovh, hetzner, leaseweb, etc.? EDIT: Anyone cares to explain his reasons behind a downvote?

I expanded it with those companies: Price breakdown vs DigitalOcean, Vultr, Linode, OVH, and Online.net / Scaleway: $5/mo | Provider | RAM | Cores | Storage | Transfer | | ---------------------- | ----- | ----- | ---------- | -------- | | LightSail | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | DO | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | VULTR | 768MB | 1 | 15GB SSD | 1TB | | Hetzner (virtual) | 1GB | 1 | 25GB SSD | 2TB | | OVH | 2GB | 1…

Post by juliand » Wed, Nov 30, 2016, 9:47 PM UTC

mbrookes wrote: post #302

xfalcox wrote: post #220

Just ran a bench on then, and the Disk per is bad. https://gist.github.com/xfalcox/3b99beac4935fd154a4cbeb540dc...

What Amazon doesn't advertise is that their "block" volumes are files on NFS NAS storage.

  CPU model:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2673 v3 @ 2.40GHz
  Number of cores: 1
  CPU frequency:  2394.441 MHz
  Total amount of RAM: 3439 MB
  Total amount of swap:  MB
  System uptime:   6 days, 15:49,       
  I/O speed:  20.1 MB/s
  Bzip 25MB: 4.27s
  Download 100MB file: 6.15MB/s

Post by zenlikethat » Wed, Nov 30, 2016, 9:57 PM UTC

redler wrote: post #308

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It's difficult to come up with a good model for how a billing ceiling would work in software as a service. A good start would be to fully specify what behavior you desire when an account hits its billing limit. Are you expecting everything to keep working like normal while the cloud provider pays the bill for those resources, or are you expecting the provider to fully shut everything down in a way that prevents the a…

It doesn't have to be an actual functional ceiling -- just a customer-facing cost ceiling. Things don't have to really "freeze". Each service could have some defined "suspend" mode that attempts to minimize Amazon's cost non-destructively. A "limp home" mode. And yes, it's possible that this mode for some kinds of services would be no different than the service's normal operating mode. When a customer's ceiling is re…

Post by harshreality » Wed, Nov 30, 2016, 9:58 PM UTC

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paulrosenzweig wrote: post #150

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I think it comes down to them seeing themselves as a utility. You wouldn't want to be prompted for payment confirmation every time you plug something into an outlet, but this does mean that you'll have a huge unexpected charge if you accidentally leave on the air conditioner when you go on vacation.

I think part of the reason that utilities can get away with this is the fact that the maximum bill you are likely to run up is generally 2x-3x your normal bill. This doesn't well for Amazon because your actual bill can be orders of magnitude larger than what you expect.