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Post by allendoerfer »

DominikR wrote: post #341
madaxe_again wrote: post #287

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Conversely, he could from a family like mine - my Omi is Austrian, along with a slew of cousins. Dinner table conversation still turns to how things would have been better had herr Hitler won. My uncle has to leave the room he so vociferously objects to his mother and his children. So, that collective memory swings both ways. Maybe Thiel lacks education in history and pines for a glorious fictitious past, which is a…

Hitler was a Socialist, not a right wing politician. That's what you Austrians/Germans get wrong. Hitler enacted a 70% income tax for the highest incomes, implemented a full welfare state, free childcare, free schools, free everything to force propaganda down their throats. He was an arts student (probably he would have done well with SJW's of today), a vegetarian, anti smoking, pro animal rights, anti religion etc.…

> German people in specific are culturally one of least capable in understanding what freedom actually means.

In the 20th century we had an emperor, started two world wars, had a weak democracy in between, then had two dictatorships exactly exposing each other and were the most important puppet state for two opposing world powers and ideologies. The freedom team not only won but overtook many other free nations again.

I think if you have freedom or democracy related questions you should ask us. We would suggest to get your act with your agencies together. Why would a dictator use the healthcare system when you have all the fucking three letter agencies and the military industrial complex just sitting there, fuelled by corporate/right-wing money?

Hitler did not wait for generations to let social systems brainwash the people, he had the thugs of the SA to beat the crap out of the opposition. Today it is much easier to get your private military going in the US than in Germany.

He also used the data of the church to find Jews, so Germany has privacy regulations for private entities. The US has some private entities, who have data the churches of the 1930s could only dream of.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

Seems like it would be better to spend the money supporting imperiled GOP senate races. Trump can't win the electoral college. At this point his only hope is to win the popular vote and spend the next four years on Fox News whining about how the election is rigged.

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Post by bantunes »

DominikR wrote: post #345
bantunes wrote: post #276

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That's all well and good, but Trump is still a terrible option. He never held office, he doesn't know how the system works, and doesn't have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. His tax plan will add trillions in debt over the next decade, and will only benefit the rich in the long run. So excuse me if I think Thiel just wants to pay less tax and sue people that piss him off. It's the rich coming to power in a m…

So he does not know the system but you know it well enough to know that his plan will add trillions to the debt?

No, but I can read reports by the Tax Foundation http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald...

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Post by nindalf »

DominikR wrote: post #345
bantunes wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's all well and good, but Trump is still a terrible option. He never held office, he doesn't know how the system works, and doesn't have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. His tax plan will add trillions in debt over the next decade, and will only benefit the rich in the long run. So excuse me if I think Thiel just wants to pay less tax and sue people that piss him off. It's the rich coming to power in a m…

So he does not know the system but you know it well enough to know that his plan will add trillions to the debt?

Trump's so called economic plan has been trashed by reputable economists and publications. Its easy to see why - he advocates for low taxes and high spending simultaneously. I've read some of the other comments you've posted here, and noticed how impervious to logic you seem to be but surely you can see how low taxes and high spending is a combination that never mixes well.

Never mind the Econ 101 level mistakes made in the report (it confused the meaning of "nominal"). Read the reviews of Trump's "plan"

- Peterson Institute of International Economics called the plan "magical realism" - https://piie.com/blogs/trade-investment-policy-watch/scoring...

- Matt Yglesias points out the stupidity of linking of GDP growth with reducing the trade deficit - http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/29/13075538/tr...

- Who is Peter Navarro (the supposed author of this mess)? - http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2016/09/who_is_peter_na....

Links courtesy of this FiveThirtyEight article - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-and-clinton-have-...

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Post by bantunes »

philliphaydon wrote: post #369
bantunes wrote: post #276

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That's all well and good, but Trump is still a terrible option. He never held office, he doesn't know how the system works, and doesn't have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. His tax plan will add trillions in debt over the next decade, and will only benefit the rich in the long run. So excuse me if I think Thiel just wants to pay less tax and sue people that piss him off. It's the rich coming to power in a m…

I'm sorry but the tax adding trillions is utter rubbish. This figure only accounts if the current people paying tax continue to pay, and all benefits and handouts continue as is. It neglects the fact that he wants to close loopholes that let people not pay tax and give less reason to dodge tax, you could argue that taking all this into account Hillarys tax could force more people to not pay tax and result in trillion…

How naive can you be to think that a career tax-dodger will make dodging taxes harder? I cannot believe you're honestly having that internal dialogue.

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Post by 55555 »

hackernews seems pretty confident that Hillary is going to win this election. If anyone would like to bet $200 against my $100 (my position being that Trump will win the USA popular vote), msg me. I'm not sure how we'll do the escrow, but I'm willing to place a few bets on the underdog.

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Post by tnzn »

Wouldn't the most important information, though not news,be that you guys live in a country where companies pay to support candidates...

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Post by Jimmy »

AvenueIngres wrote: post #293
madaxe_again wrote: post #287

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Conversely, he could from a family like mine - my Omi is Austrian, along with a slew of cousins. Dinner table conversation still turns to how things would have been better had herr Hitler won. My uncle has to leave the room he so vociferously objects to his mother and his children. So, that collective memory swings both ways. Maybe Thiel lacks education in history and pines for a glorious fictitious past, which is a…

Thiel has bachelor and JD degrees in Philosophy and Law from Stanford. I think it is a little bit preposterous to assume he holds his current views about Trump simply because he is too uneducated to think otherwise. >Maybe Thiel lacks education in history and pines for a glorious fictitious past, which is a core tenet of the trump campaign. And fascism. Maybe you are the one confusing narratives built around each can…

>Thiel understands that should Clinton win, there will be war

Why is this?

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Post by 55555 »

kyrre wrote: post #180
baytrailcat wrote: post #142

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This is my thinking too. Anyone who has been paying attention knows that he doesn't have anything closer to a consistent policy in his platform. To be fair, there is a lot of copy-paste from standard GOP platform, but his own speeches and interviews give out the impression that he doesn't have a handle on any of them. So to think that Thiel might have hitched his wagon based on ideology or policy is illogical. On the…

He has been consistent on almost all issues. He only modified the "muslim ban".

I've seen him flip flop on foreign policy. One day we're going to stop fighting wars abroad, revert to isolationism, and just focus on improving our own economy, and then at the second debate he was talking about how he was going to destroy ISIS. In a separate instance, when accused of disagreeing with his running mate, he admitted that he hadn't discussed much foreign policy with him. I enjoyed that honesty if nothing else.
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