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Re: We Hire the Best, Just Like Everyone Else

#371

Post by Grishnakh » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 3:12 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #370

Grishnakh wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The reason I get the idea that you're advocating sexual harassment is that you keep casting this in sexual terms -- why would you want to be surrounded by men, unless you're gay? Work is not a sexual environment (let's ignore the exceptions for this conversation); why is sexual orientation relevant? So you think that if I'm not actively looking for sex from women, that I should be perfectly happy to live a life comp…

No. I'm suggesting that arguing that you don't want to be surrounded exclusively by white males because "hey, I'm not gay" (implicitly, because you want to have sex with these people, or at least would not object to doing so) is somewhere between off-putting and troglodytic.

I think you're projecting, or have serious mental issues, to come up with a conclusion like that from what I wrote.

Re: We Hire the Best, Just Like Everyone Else

#372

Post by emodendroket » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

Grishnakh wrote: post #371

emodendroket wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I'm suggesting that arguing that you don't want to be surrounded exclusively by white males because "hey, I'm not gay" (implicitly, because you want to have sex with these people, or at least would not object to doing so) is somewhere between off-putting and troglodytic.

I think you're projecting, or have serious mental issues, to come up with a conclusion like that from what I wrote.

"From what I've seen of women in classical orchestras, if I were the one in charge of auditioning and hiring musicians (not blind), I'd probably be hiring mostly women.... Honestly, if you're a straight guy, why wouldn't you want pretty young women working with you?"

This is what you wrote. So, no, I think you're just trying to walk away from the implications of what you wrote because you are embarrassed. How do you propose interpreting that without any sexual bent?

Re: We Hire the Best, Just Like Everyone Else

#373

Post by Grishnakh » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 4:59 PM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #372

Grishnakh wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're projecting, or have serious mental issues, to come up with a conclusion like that from what I wrote.

"From what I've seen of women in classical orchestras, if I were the one in charge of auditioning and hiring musicians (not blind), I'd probably be hiring mostly women.... Honestly, if you're a straight guy, why wouldn't you want pretty young women working with you?" This is what you wrote. So, no, I think you're just trying to walk away from the implications of what you wrote because you are embarrassed. How do you…

You're taking one line I wrote and applying it to everything. I've made a bunch of other statements in this conversation about how I prefer mixed groups, not only of sex but of ethnicity too. One nice side-effect of a mixed group is there might be some dateable people in there, but it's not a given, and it's nice to have a mixed group (IMO) for many other reasons than just sex or seeing pretty faces, but I don't see how it's wrong to want to work in a mixed environment and have that possibility if you're single.