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Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by spdionis »

solipsism wrote: post #196
bigtones wrote: post #166

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Microsoft have never been good at product naming. Just today they renamed 'Visual Studio Online' to 'Visual Studio Team Services' because people thought it was an online version of Visual Studio. They need a VP of Product Names, someone that actually cares what their products are called. '.Net' for example is a stupid name because it is practically un-googleable.

Recently MS announced that the package manager they're building for Windows, until then code-named OneGet, had been christened.... PackageManagement. sigh

Imagine writing that in the console everytime... why not 'pm'? :(

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Post by AlexC04 »

dingo_bat wrote: post #362
AlexC04 wrote: post #335

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He might be referring to powershell ... I never use CMD anymore. I first started using it a few years back because it uses 'ls' instead of 'dir' for a directory list. Over time I've learned more and more about how its improved over CMD... and it has gotten even better in windows 10. May not quite be 100% as good as terminal on OSX but it really is very good. Funny annecdote. I was at a clojure meetup last night tappi…

Even cmd is much improved in win 10. Text reflow, free zize windows, sane selection, etc. But nothing can make up for the lack of built-in, out-of-the-box UNIX utilities like cat, grep and the works.

My "workaround" for that is to install git-scm https://git-scm.com/ and select "yes" at the install Unix tools prompt.

I am not certain that it is perfect and you're 100% right that it's not "native" but it might help ease your pain a little.

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Post by austinsharp »

AlexC04 wrote: post #334
passive wrote: post #283

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The terminal in windows 10 is much improved. Specifically copy and paste being less insane, and proper multi-line selection. I'm sure it is still deficient in many ways, but those were always the biggest irritations. No built-in python yet though.

Don't forget that text automatically reflows when you resize. I shed a tear of joy when that finally happened. Now if only I could have terminal-tabs powershell would be perfect.

Console2 and ConEmu both provide really good, feature rich wrappers for terminals, including first and foremost tabs.

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Post by igravious »

shankun wrote: post #62
afiedler wrote: post #10

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One of the biggest advantages that I know of is that VSC has a very good NodeJS debugger for Javascript and Typescript[1]. Having the debugger integrated into the editor is huge improvement over Node Inspector. Last time I tried Atom's debuggers, they were not very good. [1]: https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/editor/debugging

VS Code's debugger has an open extension model that allows adding debuggers for other languages. We have Node, Go, and Chrome debugging today, and are planning on adding others.

Ruby please, general Ruby (& Rails) support!

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Post by mrcrassic »

benlower wrote: post #250
smortaz wrote: post #142

We've been asked this by a few people, so I figured this is a good place to respond: Will PTVS (Python Tools for Visual Studio) come to VSCode? The answer is YES! This will be a major focus next year. Expect full intellisense, debugging, profiling, pkg mgmt, unit test, virtual env, multiple interpreter, Jupyter, etc. support. Disc: Python/R/Jupyter team lead https://www.visualstudio.com/features/python-vs

This is great news. Now all we need is a proper terminal in Windows that includes Python out of the box ;)

PowerShell + Set-PSReadline = awesome terminal!

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Post by trbn »

frik wrote: post #42
tomp wrote: post #31

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Why is refactoring code from JavaScript to TypeScript a bad thing? Short of using a better, but non-web-compatible language, I don't really see a better option.

Do you remember CoffeeScript?

"Hey, I created this program in Java!" "Do you remember C++?"

You seems like I guy that's really pleasing to discuss programming languages with.

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Post by whatever_dude »

z3t4 wrote: post #285
whatever_dude wrote: post #237

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I think that's exactly what it is trying to be: a simple editor with some capabilities. A lot of people expect a "real IDE" to have a lot of fancy, specific, semi-proprietary features, but what I believe VSC is providing great editing capabilities and offloading everything else to good task managers (and now, extensions). A lot that you can do in "real IDEs" (like building your project) can be handled by Gulp, Grunt,…

> super fast typing response How do you measure the typing response? Do you have a speed camera hooked up or something!?

This is one that I admit is fairly subjective, and I apologize in advance if this is not scientific enough, but: it just feels right.

I think they optimized the way code drawing is done in such a way that it just happens with the least amount of time possible between typing and drawing. The end result is the same as if you typed anywhere else, but because the response is cut by, say, 16ms, it just feels fast. I remember the first time I tried VSC - I almost felt like the letters where coming out from under the cursor ahead of time! It was a weird moment.

The counterpoint is IntelliJ. It's not a slow IDE (I used Eclipse before so that'd be unfair to say), but maybe it has a couple of frames too many before drawing what's typed, so it feels like it's lagging in comparison. Maybe why they're making it a point of future releases[1] to reduce any typing lag.

[1] http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-lat...

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Post by datashovel »

guardian5x wrote: post #355
datashovel wrote: post #300

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It looks like the stats may not have been accumulating earlier. I just saw that the numbers are updated and the main keynote shows just over 6000 views and the other two keynotes are hovering around 1000 views. By contrast I was curious to see what Google I/O keynote stats show on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V-fIGMDsmE It appears that graph starts from day one at over 800,000 views (not sure if that num…

I'm not sure what you trying to prove here. The Google I/O is more comparable with Microsoft BUILD conference.

Not trying to prove anything. Just reflecting on how apparently inconsequential Microsoft has become. Or perhaps it's more about how consequential everyone else has become.

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Post by nojvek »

niceume wrote: post #327

I just looked at Github, and most of the source is written by Typescript. I wonder what kind of GUI framework they are using? This application is cross platform. How do they make it??

Node-WebKit now called nw I think. It's simply a web browser application hosted in a desktop shell with some node services in the background.

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Post by bpicolo »

criswell wrote: post #249
bpicolo wrote: post #146

Does it support fuzzy matching filenames yet? That was one big missing feature for me

Just updated and it's still not there. It's killing me as well.

Damn. We've seen a lot of new editors that mimic sublime text and then fail to do some of the most baseline, important features that make it good. Atom didn't have pane resizing for over a year (and frankly, it's just too damn slow for a smooth editor experience).

I don't hate sublime. The plugin ecosystem is mature, and you're just writing python when you do write it. Is it necessarily the easiest api or easiest to test? Naw. But sublime gets most of the basics very right, and the rest is reasonable enough.

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