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Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by GolDDranks »

coldtea wrote: post #342
towelguy wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We speak English, but our laptops come with localized keyboards.

Can't you just pick a different layout in the OS -- and that will remap the physical buttons?

Of course you can -- but at the same time you ditch tens of years worth of muscle memory and habits. Also the physical buttons don't correspond to the characters anymore, which can be irritating when trying to remember where that one damned seldom-used sigil was again. Also it's a pain in the ass to have to switch constantly between layouts, if you want to write some non-code text in your native language that uses characters that are not present in the US layout. (Btw. for what it's worth, I use customized Dvorak layout that contains all the characters I use when coding, typing English and Finnish. But I'd imagine most of us won't go that far to actually customize their layouts.)

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by bobbles »

bobbles wrote: post #351

Maybe something worth pointing out.. I wanted to download this but after clicking every link I still hadn't seen a way to do it anywhere... Obviously if I go to the homepage now the first thing I see is a big download link, which is great. I think a 'download' link on the site though would be good since if anyone links ANYWHERE else it's hard to find.

Also.. installing on windows, it just says 'installation failed, contact the author'.

No idea where I'm supposed to look to find the installation logs, doesn't tell you where they are...

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by bobbles »

bobbles wrote: post #363
bobbles wrote: post #351

Maybe something worth pointing out.. I wanted to download this but after clicking every link I still hadn't seen a way to do it anywhere... Obviously if I go to the homepage now the first thing I see is a big download link, which is great. I think a 'download' link on the site though would be good since if anyone links ANYWHERE else it's hard to find.

Also.. installing on windows, it just says 'installation failed, contact the author'. No idea where I'm supposed to look to find the installation logs, doesn't tell you where they are...

...defaults to install to AppData??

How do I get rid of this crap now?

No entries in the Windows Programs listing. IMO They really need to think if this is a 1.0 ready release for windows...

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by Direct »

coldtea wrote: post #342
towelguy wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We speak English, but our laptops come with localized keyboards.

Can't you just pick a different layout in the OS -- and that will remap the physical buttons?

I think having to remap your systems keyboard to something other than your native language in order to use an editor is a bit unreasonable.

Typing accented characters is far easier in Spanish with a Spanish layout, that we all grow up with. The software shouldn't just ignore half the planet on the basis of "use English".

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by yathern »

Cyph0n wrote: post #341
z3t4 wrote: post #332

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It comes with Chromium, that is basically a browser. They have their own version of Chromium called Electron. But I recommend nwjs instead, witch is also built on Chromium and nodejs. And lets you make packages that only include your source code, so that you don't have to download the "browser" for every app.

Really? How is the app opened then without bundling Chromium? I built an app 4 months back and that was the only option.

It isn't really, but I guess it's so that in the future, if more apps are built with nwjs, it's possible to just download the 'runtime' and then each program sees if its installed, then downloads it if needed.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by engi_nerd »

Brakenshire wrote: post #322
tw04 wrote: post #310

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I've been opening log files in either vi, notepad++, or sublime text for as long as I can remember. I've never had any issues accomplishing exactly what I needed. You insinuate that's a bad thing without providing any examples or solutions that are "better", so I can only assume your rationale is: My tool is awesome even though it doesn't fit your requirements, so you should change your requirements.

I definitely don't mean to insinuate it's a bad thing, but for me it is not a core requirement. Atom is supposed to be a code editor, and it's no hardship to use a different program for opening non-code text files. I actually find native text editors (I've tried Scratch and Gedit) don't work better than Atom for largish text files of a megabyte or thereabouts, so it's clearly a relatively common issue with editors wh…

I do not understand the need to separate a "code editor" from a text editor. What is code before it is interpreted or compiled? Text.

I do not object to the existence of Atom -- it scratches some people's itches, so that's fine -- but I do not buy "it's supposed to be a code editor" as enough of a justification for using it versus other text editors.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by engi_nerd »

pwenzel wrote: post #188
engi_nerd wrote: post #6

Is it still limited to only editing files < 2 Megabytes? For most people that is not a showstopper, but it may be for some.

Handy tip: If you ever have a really large file to edit, Textwrangler is awesome. I've opened 1GB SQL dumps in there, and it happens almost instantaneously -- with syntax highlighting. Strangely, BBEdit and Sublime Text took longer to open the same files.

I've not tried Textwrangler, but for the 100 MB or so XML files that are the project definition for the primary system I support, Ultraedit works well.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by drew-y »

JonnieCache wrote: post #197
schneidmaster wrote: post #183

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The primary purpose was to make it easily hackable - since the whole thing is JS (actually CoffeeScript) and webviews, creating views and stuff is as easy as making a website. That said, I think I care more about performance. Sublime Text is just unbelievably rock solid.

>creating views and stuff is as easy as making a website. Making websites is a huge pain in the ass though. Why would I invite the DOM into my life?

Honest question, what is wrong with the DOM? I'm a self trained web developer so I don't really know anything else and I'd be interested to hear what the better philosophy is.
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