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Re: Magic

#361

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ProductHunt is just a useless hype machine for starts that don't hold any real value at all.

Not true, Product Hunt delivers quality traffic, with high-level people who are hungry for products and convert very well.

I was under the impression a lot of people use it for idea generation/competitive intel & that (in marketing terms) PH is a (small) traffic/link hack...

In other words I'd be interested to find anything on the quality of its traffic.

Re: Magic

#362
post #357

Idea to scale: As a non-coder, I love reading the responses of programers here. "Automate this!" "There is no way to scale." "This needs AI." As an outsider looking in, my idea to scale is similar to Uber. Have workers that can sign on to work whenever they have the time. The workers handle the orders and receive a cut of the fee you charge. It would be great if you could have some kind of rating system where the con…

You're basically describing ODesk, Elance, Mechanical Turk, etc... Not saying this execution will/won't work, but there are lots of firms that seemed to have make it work to solve a similar / the same problem set.

So you'd SMS ODesk or Elance looking for a pizza?

Re: Magic

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post #358

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Things like Mechanical Turk are just creating minimum wage jobs and we were better of without them, I think. Magic will create many call-center like jobs...

Call-center jobs in US are not minimum wage?

Not in Canada. I work in telecommunications and technical support starts at $17/h. Sales starts at $12/h I think plus commission. Lots of sales reps in our call centres are easily clearing $50k a year. Everyone gets full extended health benefits. Minimum wage is around $10.25 I think?

Re: Magic

#364

From someone who's tried and failed: performing a large amount of high-quality labor for cheap is not a sustainable business model in the West, and riding hype can make you oblivious to that fact. That said, I do hope this team has some amazing trick under their sleeves that has eluded everyone else, because I do want this service to exist.

I was searching for a comment here about how they think they're going to be profitable, because i think exactly like you. There's a reason why concierge services are usually offered to wealthy people only, that's because you need gigantic margins to remain profitable.

I'm sure they've thought about it since it isn't their first business, so i'm really curious.

Re: Magic

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post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things like Mechanical Turk are just creating minimum wage jobs and we were better of without them, I think. Magic will create many call-center like jobs...

Call-center jobs in US are not minimum wage?

My idea is nothing like a call center. Each worker is their own boss. They decide when to work, and how hard they will work. The revenue they earn would be directly related to their effort, and not an hourly wage.

Re: Magic

#366
post #357

Idea to scale: As a non-coder, I love reading the responses of programers here. "Automate this!" "There is no way to scale." "This needs AI." As an outsider looking in, my idea to scale is similar to Uber. Have workers that can sign on to work whenever they have the time. The workers handle the orders and receive a cut of the fee you charge. It would be great if you could have some kind of rating system where the con…

You're basically describing ODesk, Elance, Mechanical Turk, etc... Not saying this execution will/won't work, but there are lots of firms that seemed to have make it work to solve a similar / the same problem set.

That's a pretty broad definition of "the same problem set," stuff that humans do.

Re: Magic

#367
post #291

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The problem isn't theoretical, just sufficiently unlikely for them to take no action at this point. Consider the scenario where my phone is stolen and the thief transfers money out of my bank account with Venmo (which has no passcode or similar auth). It's unlikely, but not theoretical.

I think it's quite conceivable that both examples would never happen. And then if it did, is it that big a problem?

I would think twice before using a service that makes no effort to protect me in case of thieves or wannabe hackers. Of course, degrading the service because of security is an old and very common problem, but maybe the sweet spot would be to degrade it minimally, so that everyone gets a lot more security for just a bit less of Magic®?

Re: Magic

#368
This is an example of "execution is everything." People might try this as novelty. If it gets any traction, there will be millions of imitators. This won't succeed or fail because of the idea, but because of execution.

This needs to be really awesome to be good, really awesome. So awesome people get dependant.

Re: Magic

#369
How do you handle support issues - returns, exchanges, credits? Same mechanism?

Where do you draw the line on "anything"?

Also, this whole thing is April Fool's joke, right?

Re: Magic

#370

This seems like another one of this startup ideas that will blow up, sell for $X,000,000 in a few weeks/months, then die as the fad wears off. Congrats on being so successful so far, but my advice would be to sell out before the investors loose interest!

This is literally day 3 for them... a bit early for the investor talk.
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