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Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Post by gcb0 »

danyork wrote: post #308
gcb0 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i like to joke there are two types of tech companies, mutually exclusive. - profit driven - investor money driven skype is a profit company. wire is clearly investor money driven. So while your example is valid, i don't think they want to displace the corporate consumer that creates the bulky of skype profit. It probably wants to go after the users that uses snapchat/wasup/etc for free, with little revenue besides wh…

And curiously, Microsoft is replacing "Lync" with "Skype for Business".... although I'm not sure if that is a simple renaming of the existing client.

aparently it is just a rename. i don't deal with any clients that use it anymore, but last i heard they are just adding lync support to skype, and decided to kill one of the brands. cleverly they killed lync.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Post by binarnosp »

mahyarm wrote: post #360
bad_user wrote: post #329

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No, much larger than the issue of open-source is that we already have dozens of major communication protocols that are not based on open standards or that do federation (one implies the another). XMPP does OTR for example. And you know, the cool thing about an open standard is that it can have many clients. Throw federation in the mix and then many people will actually find it desirable. Otherwise it's just a matter…

XMPP and OTR are not workable for mobile devices. The protocol structure assumes a consistent background connection that doesn't get killed, something that is relatively cheap to do on the laptops and desktops it was designed for, but is expensive battery wise for mobile devices. Go download an OTR client for iOS, like cryptocat and notice how it pings you after 10 minutes that you have to re-open the app to keep on…

You can develop an xmpp client for IOS that does not ping you every 10 minutes (or ever). You have to register the socket used for XMPP for VOIP purposes and IOS will happily comply with that. Been there, done that

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Post by MichaelGG »

gcb0 wrote: post #361
danyork wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And curiously, Microsoft is replacing "Lync" with "Skype for Business".... although I'm not sure if that is a simple renaming of the existing client.

aparently it is just a rename. i don't deal with any clients that use it anymore, but last i heard they are just adding lync support to skype, and decided to kill one of the brands. cleverly they killed lync.

They did say they would make the Lync client more like Skype. Which is insane, as Skype is one of the worst pieces of software I use on a day-to-day basis. Lync is a far cleaner, nicer, client.

Also, ffs, "Skype for Business".

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Post by matwood »

graeme wrote: post #117
coldtea wrote: post #103

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> "What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. The usual negative HN top post. I have to disagree. We've moved from irc, to ICQ, to Microsoft Messenger, to ..., to Skype, to (what's hot now), so somehow all those people really DID want another messaging app and even adopted one. > It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. Most of th…

I've been in Brazil for the past five weeks. EVERYONE uses whatsapp, because SMS is expensive. And this all happened in the past couple of years or so, because that's when smartphones became widespread. I have never been asked my phone number. I've only been asked my "whatsapp". Make a good enough messaging app, and you can win an entire country. Or the world.

I have never used Whatsapp in the US. The sole purpose I have it on my phone is for communicating with AirBnb hosts when traveling abroad.

It is amazing how Whatsapp rose everywhere but in the US.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Post by MichaelGG »

flexie wrote: post #11

Skype has video chat. So far Wire only has audio. Skype can call a regular phone or receive calls from a regular phone. It seems like Wire can't, yet. Skype has all my contacts, Wire has none, yet. Let's call it a Skype killer if it kills Skype. Not yet.

Of course this is early. OTOH, when Skype launched, it had a sub-standard feature set, and even kept it's shitty UI around. Messenger was dominating, supported video/audio/etc. (As did NetMeeting). Yet MS fucked that one up and just let Skype and FB takeover. So it's not inconceivable that MS could repeat the same thing again.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Post by dragonwriter »

schnable wrote: post #368

The first selling point is "it's beautiful?" That's not selling anything.

> The first selling point is "it's beautiful?" That's not selling anything.

Its selling aesthetics rather than function, which may not be important to you, but it may be important to the customer they think they want to target.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Post by yitchelle »

Have anyone read more marketing speak than this website?

"It’s pure. With Wire you can easily move from messages and pictures to HD voice. Wire’s pristine audio quality makes it feel as if the people you are speaking to are right there with you."

I don't even know what this means? I mean, will quality still be "right there with you" if the latency on the network is large? or if you phone is loaded doing some task in the background?

So much of this kind of stuff is hard to guarantee because it is outside of your control.

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