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Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#361
I don't really see a problem with this, and feel it's been blown waaaaaaay bigger than it should have been.

They even included "We are not affiliated with most of the projects, their owners might not endorse use of tip4commit." at the bottom of their frontpage.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#362
First, I want to apologize. We have received a lot of negative feedback suddenly and I can assure you that we take it seriously.

I temporary disabled ALL the email notifications (even though I don't think they were a real problem) and added a warning that we are not affiliated with project owners. When my teammate is online he will probably also some of the other issues.

I see a lot of misinformation about tip4commit and our intentions. I can't quickly respond to everybody, but I'll try to keep basic answers here: https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/wiki/FAQ

Perhaps some people just misunderstand the project and hate it.

Also I think that it is normal that developers try to understand the motivation of users and ask questions in order to find a better solution, please don't take it as offence or reluctance to change.

We are going to resolve every issue or close the project.

Btw, if you think this project shouldn't exist - welcome to https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/issues/157 - that could be the easiest solution for all of us.

If you believe the project can be improved - welcome to leave your feedback on the desired improvements, such as https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/issues/152 and https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/issues/154

or others.

Thanks for reading this and please accept apologies if we offended you (never wanted to).

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#363
post #194

What is staggering is that one would assume that this service was created with the aim of helping open source developers, but when the developers ask personally to make a reasonable change to how the site is functioning, the owners decline. So the reason the site exists is something different. I don't think it's fraud. It's probably the weird culture of the (younger) part of the Bitcoin community, for whom the Bitcoi…

I think you were probably referring to my comment - and for what it's worth, I'm thinking you're absolutely correct about it being a cultural difference.

The Bitcoin community is made up of predominately radical libertarians; I say that with the utmost respect, as I consider myself part of that very group. The culture is very different from that of the Python community - and one of those ways is that it is often acceptable to alienate a portion of your potential userbase.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#364

First, I want to apologize. We have received a lot of negative feedback suddenly and I can assure you that we take it seriously. I temporary disabled ALL the email notifications (even though I don't think they were a real problem) and added a warning that we are not affiliated with project owners. When my teammate is online he will probably also some of the other issues. I see a lot of misinformation about tip4commit…

>> Btw, if you think this project shouldn't exist - welcome to https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/issues/157 - that could be the easiest solution for all of us.

The project should be opt-in or shouldn't exist at all.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#365
post #364

First, I want to apologize. We have received a lot of negative feedback suddenly and I can assure you that we take it seriously. I temporary disabled ALL the email notifications (even though I don't think they were a real problem) and added a warning that we are not affiliated with project owners. When my teammate is online he will probably also some of the other issues. I see a lot of misinformation about tip4commit…

>> Btw, if you think this project shouldn't exist - welcome to https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/issues/157 - that could be the easiest solution for all of us. The project should be opt-in or shouldn't exist at all.

I think that implementing "opt-in" is the natural solution and yet the maintainer writes that it will "brake everything". I don't understand this extreme reluctance of Tip4Commit to acknowledge the right of owners of projects to control things tightly related to the projects they own.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#366
post #365
post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Btw, if you think this project shouldn't exist - welcome to https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit/issues/157 - that could be the easiest solution for all of us. The project should be opt-in or shouldn't exist at all.

I think that implementing "opt-in" is the natural solution and yet the maintainer writes that it will "brake everything". I don't understand this extreme reluctance of Tip4Commit to acknowledge the right of owners of projects to control things tightly related to the projects they own.

For what it's worth, I don't believe maintainers have a moral or legal right to control what happens between third parties - that is, contributors to their project and those who wish to support them.

I wouldn't be opposed to implementing opt-out at a project level... but it's not my project.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#367

First, I want to apologize. We have received a lot of negative feedback suddenly and I can assure you that we take it seriously. I temporary disabled ALL the email notifications (even though I don't think they were a real problem) and added a warning that we are not affiliated with project owners. When my teammate is online he will probably also some of the other issues. I see a lot of misinformation about tip4commit…

The point of your service as it stands right now is that people give you money in exchange for a promise to make it reach other people, who have no idea that you are collecting it on their behalf. If you can not reach them, this money remains with you (as the "donation pool" is under your control). You are very likely to run into legal trouble beause of this, sooner rather than later, so IMHO it is in your best interest to stop the service in its current form.

You have to work with the community rather than against it. If there are maintainers out there that really want this, collaborate with them and grow from there.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"scores of established corporations choosing to accept Bitcoin" What percentage of these established corporations "accept" bitcoin through VC-funded startups (which are gambling on the possibility of rising bitcoin value), receiving dollars and never actually holding a bitcoin?

OK? I agree with you. I never claimed they were holding it. Lots of Bitcoin-accepting businesses don't hold Bitcoin, and instead use it as a payment processor. I don't see the problem with it. They still accept Bitcoin, no scare quotes needed.

"They still accept Bitcoin, no scare quotes needed."

They accept fiat currency, not Bitcoin. The quotes were for accuracy, not "scare".

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#369
post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Very few look at volatility That is fair. Do you think this is an insurmountable disadvantage? >and transaction volume. I don't know about that. Bitcoiners have been very vocal about the regularly increasing transaction volume since its inception. See https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popu...

Using Bitcoin is basically, like using a foreign currency, with the only difference, that in case of a the conventional currency you might actually live in the country it is used. In other words, whenever you use Bitcoin you take on FX risk . This means, that Bitcoin is something you wouldn't want to store value in for the long-term. Hedging that risk will also prove a major headache, since there aren't that many Bit…

It's different than most other foreign currencies in the sense that it's variance in value is MUCH higher than your usual currency. I would consider storing my personal fortune in CHF, JPY, USD, or even EUR but never in BTC.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

#370
post #240
post #194

What is staggering is that one would assume that this service was created with the aim of helping open source developers, but when the developers ask personally to make a reasonable change to how the site is functioning, the owners decline. So the reason the site exists is something different. I don't think it's fraud. It's probably the weird culture of the (younger) part of the Bitcoin community, for whom the Bitcoi…

I think it's fair to say that the vocal majority of BitCoiners have a very naive view of some basic economic concepts.

Well, the vocal majority of EVERYONE has a very naive view of most basic economic concepts.
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