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Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

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My advice is to strive for excellence and let the rest come in time. "Excellence" is a journey you can do alone, and it will make you feel better regardless of what happens for you socially.

Ok, so what does this mean? You mentioned you don't speak English well. So the obvious choice is to go to classes to learn English. Definitely do that! But also follow the path of excellence: teach others English. Go to conversation groups and try to help people as much as they help you. Read books and share your favorites with people there. Why do you like them? How did they make you feel? Become more thoughtful. Which English words are your favorites? Memorize your favorite passages and poems. This is going for excellence. It isn't easy, but it's powerful.

Why does this work? Well, it turns out people who love what they do are fun to be around. Now when someone says, "what do you do", you can tell them this: "I'm really excited about learning English. I've never had a chance to really focus on it until now." Then ask them what their favorite words are, and they will join right in. Your energy and love of what you are doing will be fun to be around and interesting.

So now you are learning English and loving it. Do more. Apply this principle to work (master an area, really master it), to exercise (join crossfit, a climbing gym, martial arts, or dance). Follow your interests most of all. Try to put yourself out there 100%. It will take time to find mastery, but as you improve others will notice your energy and be drawn to you naturally.

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

#362
The best advice I can give you is find a dance studio and take a beginner Latin/swing/ballroom class. Make sure to find the super-beginner variety, it will help to know that everyone is basically in the same place as you. It is a social setting and everyone is there for basically one thing, to dance! Approaching strangers and asking them to dance is not only not awkward in this context, it is absolutely encouraged. It has the added benefit of you collecting a skill that most men do not possess, the ability to dance. All women love to dance, so you will instantly become attractive, regardless of whether you are physically handsome or can speak English, you will immediately climb the attraction ladder.

Seriously. Go out and dance!

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

#363
As someone who used to be a much more introverted person and have sense became more extroverted in the past few years. The way I did it? Pick-up artistry. aka Learning the art of dating and relationships. This not only helped me with dating and love life, but more than that I learned how to be the best version of me. Now usually when I am with friends that are extroverted I am usually the more extroverted one! the most helpful was the base of my growth and learning which was by a man in the pick-up world known as David DeAngelo. His videos called The Mastery Series was probably the most eye opening and influential group of videos I have ever seen in my life. It helped me to look at my own "holes in my emotional armor" and be able to fix them. I highly recommend these. I also found that it makes being able to sell much easier and better too. =P

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

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Hello, I’m not sure I fit into the conversation because although I have lived the last 2 years in exile in order to finish my university (in 3.5 years I might a Pharmacy degree at hand). Let’s say that I was on a mission and it payed back. I’m not an introvert. In my town there are more people than I could count that would wanna hang out with me. I have a girlfriend, a sports-car, etc. The things I do when I wanna ge…

> The ancient Greeks had a saying that is extremely deep, IMHO. It’s not absolute but goes a long way: “mens sana in corpore sano”. Are you sure they weren't Romans? Or maybe Greeks who spoke Latin.

Yeah I'm sure. I'm reciting the latin version because it's easier to read in English. The original version is: νοῦς ὑγιής ἐν σώματι ὑγιεῖ.

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

#366

Surprised at all the focus on introversion in the comments. I'm 26 too and have always been social and extroverted - I can totally relate to this post. These are near-universal struggles. Most people wish they could make more friends with shared interests, even those with a great friend group. (Most friendships are circumstantial and the individuals don't have much more in common than two random people from similar b…

I really like this comment since it really hits at what technical people could potentially do to address the difficulty of meeting new friends. Like you, I've always kinda looked at the social apps as stupid/flooded/artificial.

Reading this thread though really emphasizes to me that there is huge demand for an easy "friend finder". I'm now thoroughly convinced this is a space just waiting to be occupied.

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're a true introvert, your biggest enemy is yourself. It's your desire to be alone. It's your preference for living by yourself, for quiet moments away from others, for nights spent at home, watching Netflix or playing games. Making friends means making an effort to hang out with them, even when it doesn't seem like the most immediately pleasurable, comfortable, or convenient thing to do at any given moment.…

"I have learned the art of being incredibly outgoing and a veritable chatterbox when need be." How did you learn ?

Like any skill, I'd suggest this requires practice. One way I found as an introvert was to join Toastmasters. I don't have a big fear of public speaking—I can do it if I have to, but being in practice makes a huge difference. I've seen incredible improvement in people after 3 or 4 speeches.

Most clubs will have a social aspect and might gather for drinks afterwards. It makes a good way to practice smalltalk and keep in touch on a regular basis. There's usually a mix of people... some will be struggling with shyness and fear of speaking, others may be naturals and make good people to study for technique.

I've fallen out of regular attendance lately, but I'd highly recommend Toastmasters.

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

#368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are right to caution against this advice, but I don't think that was actually written as advice that was meant to be followed. Those struck me as illustrative examples of unconventional places to initiate a conversation. Nobody is telling OP to actually do those specific things, just to consider them.

Heh, that makes sense:) I guess when I read "So I'd ask you to ask yourself: is your problem really about meeting people, or is it about staying engaged with people?" ... it seems really obvious that the problem in OP's case is the former. Since our parent comment used OP to springboard into his own topic, I hope it's considered fair that I used the parent to springboard back into OP's case:)

OP has both problems and while the former seems like the big one, it's really just the first one. Introverts don't need a lot of friends, just a few really good ones. Making those strong connections by staying engaged really is important.

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

#369
I just finished reading the book "Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking"

Please read this. First off, it will make you feel better about yourself and realise that there are many people like you. It also addresses the "Asian introvert living in outspoken America" cultural issue.

To meet people, you need to change your environment. Put yourself in situations where you are forced to interact. Groups or meetups are a great place to get started. It depends on your interests but something active like a sport or dancing will generally help you form better bonds.

Will it happen right away? No, but keep going on a weekly basis and become a regular. You'll find that friendships will happen.

To initiate friendships from these situations, you need to move the relationship to another setting. If you only see the person at the meetup, it's more of an acquaintance.

If you get along with someone you can say something like "Hey, I'm thinking of seeing that new movie this weekend. You want to come along?"

The envy you feel when you see groups is a good thing. It means you want to move in that direction.

Re: How can an introvert Asian engineer like me make friends?

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The best advice I can give you is find a dance studio and take a beginner Latin/swing/ballroom class. Make sure to find the super-beginner variety, it will help to know that everyone is basically in the same place as you. It is a social setting and everyone is there for basically one thing, to dance! Approaching strangers and asking them to dance is not only not awkward in this context, it is absolutely encouraged. I…

Met my wife by learning to salsa dance!
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