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Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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In a somewhat similar vein, I find that when I use my Apple Watch to track a hike, it will frequently auto pause or ask me if I've finished when I'm climbing slowly up a steep ascent. It annoys the heck out of me because that's often when I'm working hardest. My watch is also tracking my heart rate - and I think it's pretty safe to assume that if my HR is holding steady at 150 BPM then I have not stopped for a break.…

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Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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In a somewhat similar vein, I find that when I use my Apple Watch to track a hike, it will frequently auto pause or ask me if I've finished when I'm climbing slowly up a steep ascent. It annoys the heck out of me because that's often when I'm working hardest. My watch is also tracking my heart rate - and I think it's pretty safe to assume that if my HR is holding steady at 150 BPM then I have not stopped for a break.…

The Apple Watch is definitely fashion accessory first and fitness device second. I can't use it running in the colder seasons - a sweaty sleeve triggers the lap count (tap the screen - no ability to reassign to a button). It's one of the most annoying and fixable (if they cared) issues on an Apple device I've encountered. Not even the ultra-premium, ulta-outdoorsy Ultra version lets you map "lap count" to the extra b…

> The Apple Watch is definitely fashion accessory first and fitness device second.

Are Apple Watches really fashion accessories? I think a $30 Casio F91W looks better than an Apple Watch, most purpose-built watches do. I might be biased since I am afflicted with an interest in wristwatches, ahem, timepieces.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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The Apple Watch is definitely fashion accessory first and fitness device second. I can't use it running in the colder seasons - a sweaty sleeve triggers the lap count (tap the screen - no ability to reassign to a button). It's one of the most annoying and fixable (if they cared) issues on an Apple device I've encountered. Not even the ultra-premium, ulta-outdoorsy Ultra version lets you map "lap count" to the extra b…

> The Apple Watch is definitely fashion accessory first and fitness device second. Are Apple Watches really fashion accessories? I think a $30 Casio F91W looks better than an Apple Watch, most purpose-built watches do. I might be biased since I am afflicted with an interest in wristwatches, ahem, timepieces .

I don’t know anything about fashion. I suppose it’s possible that with the right wristband, matching outfit, and on the correct occasion - it could be a fashion statement, I don’t know.

But I’ve just always worn watches anyway for telling time, have an affinity for gadgets, and consider the Apple Watch as just a more capable wrist watch. I’m sure the way I wear it - with an extremely worn out and faded “trail loop” band - is extremely unfashionable. But I still like it.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Does the app not require authentication? At least MitID in Denmark requires a 6-digit PIN at the very minimum, or biometrics optionally.

MitID (at least as I have it on Android) requires either biometrics or a PIN. To help slightly I've set my username to a long string of random digits.

Interesting. I've actually never enabled biometrics on it just as a precaution, and it's a different passcode than the phone, plus I use a random set of chars as the username like many others do.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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In Sweden where I live you need to use the digital national ID whenever you make a credit card transaction via some app, for example when buying a bus ticket, so you need to have it with you at all times. But with the ID you can also take a quick loan and transfer all the money to a foreign bank basically ruining your life as the bank take no responsibility if the ID is used during the transaction.

It depends on which bank you use. Swedbank requires calling and speaking with a rep to transfer internationally in addition to a BankID check.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Thanks! Given this was CBC, my jaw hit the floor when I saw London. I live 20 mins from London, Ontario and 70k thefts in a year would be _insane_. Then I realized it was about London, U.K. and my jaw only hit the table. 70k is still insane, though.

Is it really insane? That is less than 200 per day, in a city of 15 million people.. a single gang of 20 thieves could likely manage that! The real question is, how does this compare to other cities of this size and demographics?

Let me check my maths...

So population of london is 9M

Say your network and you is 250 people. (friends, colleague, family, neighbours, community)

Probability (P) of not being chosen[0]: 1-200/9M

Probability of your network (PN) not being chosen[1]: P^250

Probability of your network not being chosen everyday for 1 year: PN^365 = 13%

I'm not very confident with statistics but if I assembled that correctly that means in any given year, you'd only expect 13% odds that no one you care about was a victim of phone snatching crime, That's kind of bleak tbh

[0] realistically the odds are a lot worse and the probability won't be uniformly distributed: people living in Surrey or Chiswick are going to have different odds to someone who lives in Soho or works in Central London. Suddenly the "at risk" population can get pretty small when you think about it because grannies and 2 year olds aren't walking around Warren Street station at peak theft hours with their phone out.

[1] I realise that this doesn't handle replacement but for big population and small subset this should approximate

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Is "snatching a phone and running off" a common enough problem in some regions that this is worth having? Or is this a feature chasing after fears of the bogeyman, leading to concrete inconveniences like this?

As someone from South America I find it interesting that people born and raised in developed countries would think that phone-snatching detection is a bogeyman feature. Over there it's a given that your belongings can stop being yours at any given moment just 'cause.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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> ”Adding “running” to the list of things that Google engineers apparently don’t do.” Not with a phone, no. Why would you take your phone with you when you run? It’s bulky and annoying. If you really need to be reachable or to be able to pay for something in emergencies, that’s what smart watches are for.

> Why would you take your phone with you when you run? Music, being able to tell what time it is, navigation¹, emergency calls², non-emergency calls/communication. Or, … the use case in TFA. > If you really need to be reachable or to be able to pay for something in emergencies, that’s what smart watches are for. … not everyone has the means to drop $400+/y³ on a watch & plan. Smart phone & plan prices are high enough…

> ”… not everyone has the means to drop $400+/y³ on a watch & plan. Smart phone & plan prices are high enough already.”

Oh come on, it’s not $400/yr. I pay about $5/month for mine, added on to my phone plan and sharing the same number.

And for most functions (including navigation!) you don’t even need cellular service.

I think we’re all a bit too dependent on our phones so it’s nice to have an alternative that lets you go phone-free sometimes.

But for me it’s really just about convenience. I like to run light and lugging a big heavy phone is a bulky distraction.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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I wear leggings that have elastic pockets down the sides for my phone. Perfectly comfy. Not sure what the men's equivalent would be.

Do please link to leggings with pockets, I'll pass the info to some ladies I know... For men, part of my "hiking pants" have zipped pockets that are big enough and placed well enough that the phone doesn't bother you when running or climbing or whatever. (Don't get me started on women's hiking pants, the missus buys hers from the men's section.)

I got a couple pairs at target - I think they're these https://www.target.com/p/women-s-everyday-soft-ultra-high-ri...

For shorts: https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/products/E483295-000/01?colorDi...

They're overall a pretty common product category, though the highest end brands (lululemon) don't have pockets.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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It's just both (or more for the casual jogger than serious ultra runner for example). If you need a proper, dedicated sports device get a coros, garmin or suunto. Apple Watch is more leaning towards day to day, while these things are for sports and just for sports. But suck at day to day stuff if you want the fancy apple watch things. Pick your poison.

What metrics does garmin provide that the Apple Watch doesn’t

honestly, if you're asking that question you don't need a garmin/coros. I'm a long distance trail runner, so I appreciate things like a cleaner heart rate (strap), hill climb alerts (length + degree), food alerts, loading a map (mandatory for races to have the route as GPX on my watch). Also stuff like training readiness, recovery etc. Stuff like that. If you're a recreational jogger, you don't need a specialized watch imho.
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