Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

Post by watwut » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 10:41 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #355

awesome_dude wrote: post #347

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Wait - what? You cannot buy them because they are dumping them??????

"Dumping" is a term of art in international trade. It's the thing that happens when a foreign exporter sells goods in your country below their production cost (or far below what they're charging domestic customers). It's done to fuck up the foreign markets for those goods, or, in China's case, as a relief valve for malinvestment. China drastically overfunds EV production. There's a whole weird story where provinces a…

Post by Scroll_Swe » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 10:44 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #288

mlsu wrote: post #174

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Absolutely true. But China’s industrial dominance is also the government immiserating its people, just in a different way. Domestic consumption in China is famously low, work culture is famously bad (996,etc). And this is because of what their government, not the people of China, have chosen to do.

> But China’s industrial dominance is also the government immiserating its people Didn't they bring hundreds of millions out of poverty, and built amazing cities and facilities in the past 30 years? > Domestic consumption in China is famously low Compared to what, the US? Compared to China is at a historical high, isn't it? And they're doing quite well even compared to like 70% of the world and rising.

Post by t0mpr1c3 » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

throwaway2037 wrote: post #343

lostlogin wrote: post #268

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What’s the level of subsidy that’s ok?

I'll take a stab. How about something like not more than 50% greater than OECD average per industry? My point: It seems reasonable that some countries was to specialise in certain areas. For example: Taiwan and (East!) Germany chose to build-out their semiconductor industry starting in the 1980s. It has paid pretty good dividends with a healthy amount of industrial subsidies. I also think the OECD should be raising t…

Post by froh » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 10:47 PM UTC

snapetom wrote: post #282

thih9 wrote: post #243

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> GoPros are used all over in aerospace. If we replaced the brand with Insta360, that puts a big attack vector all over the place. What would the attack vector be? I’m not saying there isn’t any, I don’t know much about aerospace and this sounds interesting.

Cameras need to connect somewhere, somehow to offload their videos/photos. Whether that's network, USB, SD card, those are all attack vectors. Hell, even the files themselves can act as payloads.

Post by tptacek » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 10:50 PM UTC

awesome_dude wrote: post #361

tptacek wrote: post #355

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"Dumping" is a term of art in international trade. It's the thing that happens when a foreign exporter sells goods in your country below their production cost (or far below what they're charging domestic customers). It's done to fuck up the foreign markets for those goods, or, in China's case, as a relief valve for malinvestment. China drastically overfunds EV production. There's a whole weird story where provinces a…

Yes, I am well aware of the definition of dumping - that fails to explain why people cannot buy them. If they're being dumped there is an oversupply, and people are spoilt for choice. The market is awash with the dumped product. Not being able to buy them is the exact reverse of that.