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US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys $1B worth of Reapers

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Re: US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys $1B worth of Reapers

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Our country is a joke

No, it's not a joke.

When I see an article like this, I first think about the horrible lives lost in all of these wars. Many of them wonderful people who want to live their own lives.

But I also think of unofficial channels of information sharing among nations, like Iran and others. And I think it's an ironic answer to the information sharing push we saw after 9/11 with the Patriot Act.

Except I'm not laughing or thinking it's funny we got one over on a libertarian, or a conservative, or a liberal with an ironic story. I understand irony sucks when you're not writing the story.

And I'm thinking I fucking loved my Apple IIe growing up. And I hope the aerospace engineers and families in Seattle and Southern California and elsewhere who may see increased budgets for this spend it wisely on themselves and theie families but also how they want. Maybe they can more easily afford houses and that makes them feel more a part of the community.

Re: US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys $1B worth of Reapers

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> When I read we spent $1B, I think about how I'm responsible for $3 of that. I like to think about how providing 4-week paid parental leave would cost $2 billion annually and actually help US families. Meanwhile we have spent over $100 billion on this war.

California already more or less provides 8 weeks of paid parental leave (PFL program).

Here in Norway it's 49 weeks with 100% pay.

Mom gets 3 weeks before birth, both gets 15 weeks each, and 16 weeks can be distributed as parents see fit.

So if mom gets the full 16 weeks, she gets 34 weeks total, and partner gets 15 weeks.

Parents can decide to get 80% pay, in which case they get 61 weeks total.

Some weeks around birth is fixed, apart from that parents can decide how to use it. One could work two days a week and have three days off, for example.

The pay is capped, but many employers will compensate the difference for high earners.

Re: US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys $1B worth of Reapers

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Hundreds of billions spent on a war you lost and best case scenario is going back to the deal Obama made. Money well spent indeed.

That's a propaganda line. Iran has lost most of its capacity to make war, but it can still harass. The money is also not as relevant as people think. The amount of money is largely political fluff, not much in the way of serious economic impact in a $32 trillion economy.

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Re: US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys $1B worth of Reapers

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>It pales compared to the $3,000 a year in interest towards the national debt I'm responsible for. Thinking of country-scale finances in the same way you think about personal finance is wrong in many ways. Take debt for example. As an individual, it's arguably best not to have debt at all. As a country, sovereign debt is the foundation of the world's money supply and fuels continuous economic growth. Also, though the…

I see this parroted constantly but it seems to be getting proven wrong by Japan and, frankly, the US

Is there an example in your eyes that proves this wrong?

Re: US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys $1B worth of Reapers

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Has seeing the horrors of the Ukraine war made you want the west to stop it and force a surrender? More horrors don't make people want less war. If anything, it may be the opposite. People pretend to be anti-war right up until there's a war and then suddenly it turns out they're actually anti-losing-the-war.

I want less war. I'm against attacking other countries, but totally in favor of defending yourself if you get attacked. Those aren't contradictory statements.

That sounds noble until it doesn't work in reality and people always find reasons to justify wars. If it was so simple, it would be easy for most people to get on board with and most wars would end.

For example, do you agree that Britain's and France's appeasement of Germany before WWII was the right thing because an attack wouldn't have been self-defense? Or, what about attacking another country to help defend an ally who's being attacked by them? That's not defensive, so I guess it's wrong by your standard for any other country to defend Ukraine. What about defending them by supplying arms and soldiers? The line gets blurry fast.

How about re-taking some recently lost territory? Is that wrong? For example would it be wrong for Ukraine to attack Russia to regain its eastern areas that Russia took at the beginning of the war? Or for Russia to retake any other parts of the soviet union? How about either North or South Korea attacking the other? If everybody opposed such non-defensive wars, they would be severely disadvantaged to a country that incrementally takes pieces of their territory in a ratchet effect.

What about "liberating" the people of another country from a brutal dictator? I'm sure you'll oppose this because it's like Iraq or Syria, but is there really no case where it's justified? Not even Pol Pot's Cambodia where it might have saved a quarter of the population from death it somebody had intervened?

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