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Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Post by kennywinker »

NeutralCrane wrote: post #358
kennywinker wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowhere in the GPL does it say how you can USE the software - you are free to run, modify, and use it any way you see fit. All its restrictions are triggered by DISTRIBUTION of the software, especially modified versions.

Distribution is a subset of use

That’s one semantic interpretation of “use”, but not the only or the obvious one.

For most physical objects and concepts, distribution isn’t a subset of use. e.g. the post office. You can be a user, but you have no ability to distribute the post office - because that’s not a thing that is possible or makes sense. In that case distribution is not a subset of use. Other examples: most saas, e.g. gmail. Good luck distributing gmail.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Post by kennywinker »

NeutralCrane wrote: post #356
kennywinker wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except it’s not. That poster is just doing an IP law version of the “paradox of tolerance”. Their argument is just: you say you want information to be free yet you believe in licenses that keep information from being made un-free.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the paradox of intolerance. If you have a more substantive criticism, feel free to elaborate.

That was what’s called an analogy. What you said and the PoT are similar because they both rely on eliminating nuance using language.

Paradox of tolerance: to maintain a tolerant society one must be intolerant of intolerance.

> Even an open source license misses the point, because the implication is still that one person can dictate how another person can make use of knowledge. It’s still premised on the same dystopian view that a person can own an idea.

Your proposal: to make information free one must restrict how information can be used.

The biggest hole in your argument is just the MIT and BSD licenses. Sure what you say might apply to the GPL and other copyleft licenses - but MIT/BSD are as close to no-strings attached as can be achieved in our current legal framework.

So, clearly plenty of people are happy to freely give up ownership of their works. But others value keeping the code out in the open - not zero restrictions.

This is analogous to the paradox of tolerance, because they both rely on eliminating the variability in what people want when it comes to free knowledge or a tolerant society, and they both rely on using words to create a false dichotomy: tolerant vs intolerant, free vs restrictive. A tolerant society is still tolerant event if it is “intolerant” of murder - just because i used an antonym doesn’t mean those are the same exact concepts being negated.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Post by sliqqq »

WARNING! The link they posted on this Gitlab issue is a scam redirect loop, leading to something that uBlock rates as malicious. Also the /contact URL is not reachable, the entire .li of annas archive seems to be a scam. I'm writing this 2 days after this hackernews post went viral, it might be that somebody changed the links in between.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Post by dlenski »

imhoguy wrote: post #77
dlenski wrote: post #61

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There are not too many mentally-sharp, fully-employed, terminally-ill people that I have met. Even fewer at tech companies. And even fewer who are single and childless. (Google would likely go after the estate of anyone who did this.)

But the one would be enough, especially in large organization. Surely they would need access to the exact data too.

And what I'm saying is that it's probably unlikely that this "one" exists.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Post by cess11 »

ethbr1 wrote: post #306
cess11 wrote: post #304

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Before you go to the capitalist in their home and torch it or beat them in front of their family, try striking for a while. Usually they soften rather quickly when labour is collectively withheld.

Hence why corporate leadership is salivating over AI.

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Post by altairprime »

nnurmanov wrote: post #350
dang wrote: post #339

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Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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nnurmanov wrote: post #350
dang wrote: post #339

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@dang Could you please unblock https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48807184 , users say they do not see the post! I spent so many days to build the product! Not quite sure why this happpened? Was I banned?

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