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> What Google makes is irrelevant to the content producer. Is it though? Let's say I weave a basket out of reeds I've spent the weekend picking from the shores of a local creek. I take the basket to a guy who pays me $20 for it. Then that same guy takes it to a swap meet that he runs in town and sells it for $200. That's just market economics, until you try to set up your own smaller swap meet on the route to this gu…
What's preventing anyone from trying to launch a YouTube competitor? Or content producers monetizing and hosting their own videos?
PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
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Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
People don’t really want another step in the already arduous process of making videos - especially when the return on investment will be $0. This website will die off in a couple years and everyone who wastes time on it will be worse off for it. You need to build a product so good that my statement above sounds INSANE. Not just “I think he’s wrong” but “dude absolutely no way. Everyone will want this. Are you stupid?…
Your use of the word "product" here reminds me of the now infamous McDonald's video. It's a decentralized, open source, video sharing platform. It's not a product. It's okay for products to exist, but not everything needs to be one.
Sure, but as I explained, it doesn’t really work well anyways, so who cares?
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#363Hasn't cared about PeerTube for a long time, but this software is getting really impressive. Maybe it's time to move towards the next step: getting publishers on board. I could totally see myself hooked if I can watch news on it. Can someone from a proper news agency, such as BBC, DW, Reuters, NYT etc test the software and maybe make a pitch? If these agencies are hosting their own PeerTube instances, that would be a…
Publishers won't get on board until you can work out how to sort out advertising, paid subscriptions, and blocking ad blockers.
No, I mean just let them host the instance themselves, and they can decide to do whatever.
Many of these publishers already got a podcast/video publishing routine anyways and they just put ads directly in the podcast/video. I guess maybe it's not that hard for them to add another publishing channel.
Getting one of the proper news agencies on board is very beneficial for the PeerTube network, because currently there's not much good quality content on it. News videos maybe a good baseline to keep user engaged (as long as they're not too political).
If PeerTube is my software, I'll probably pay my own money to get the agencies on board. I'll even host their site myself if it needs to (at least for the first few years, to demonstrate the value of the software).
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#364As a professional YouTuber, the main issue I instantly see with this is the lack of monetization. I think people who don't make videos for a living severely underestimate how expensive it is to produce high-quality videos people want to watch. This isn't like writing a tweet or even posting a picture on Instagram. Even a decent 20-minute video can easily take 40 man-hours of high-skilled labor. I have a pretty small…
> this is the lack of monetization.
By charging it for content. Since HN doesn't like any form of Ads. /s
Sorry I have to write this out. But I am somewhat glad in the past 2 years HN has returned back to discussing monetization, money, business in a sane way.
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really not understand that people might want to do things for reasons other than money?
If you read my comments you can provide an actual counter argument instead of claiming i don't understand something
I read all your comments and as far as I can see they presuppose that people are making videos to make money and would not otherwise make them.
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#366As a professional YouTuber, the main issue I instantly see with this is the lack of monetization. I think people who don't make videos for a living severely underestimate how expensive it is to produce high-quality videos people want to watch. This isn't like writing a tweet or even posting a picture on Instagram. Even a decent 20-minute video can easily take 40 man-hours of high-skilled labor. I have a pretty small…
Seems advertising could be a third-party service on top of the video streaming service. Just like there are ad platforms that plugin to web pages. If that grows, you get your monetization.
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
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The feds will go after the instance admin that is sharing pirate content.
Isn't the design of peertube that you can view videos originally uploaded by other instances? So unless you decide to not federate, you are responsible for every video on every instance.
Yes, but you can federate selectively, as in choosing which other instances you want to. And, yes, federating turns you responsible for the content of the other instance (IMHO; not legal advice or even fact checked).
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What Google makes is irrelevant to the content producer. Is it though? Let's say I weave a basket out of reeds I've spent the weekend picking from the shores of a local creek. I take the basket to a guy who pays me $20 for it. Then that same guy takes it to a swap meet that he runs in town and sells it for $200. That's just market economics, until you try to set up your own smaller swap meet on the route to this gu…
What's preventing anyone from trying to launch a YouTube competitor? Or content producers monetizing and hosting their own videos?
There platforms like this. I subscribe to Nebula, for example.
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you read my comments you can provide an actual counter argument instead of claiming i don't understand something
I read all your comments and as far as I can see they presuppose that people are making videos to make money and would not otherwise make them.
'if you work hard enough and put in enough work that people watch 4000 hours of your videos in last year, and eventually you want to quit the job you don't like and just get paid by creating for people like that guy, and that guy says "monetization is the problem I have", it's kind of sociopathic. Drawing this line between work and hobby, like you have to do stuff you hate for money and god forbid you start getting paid for doing stuff you like' did you read that part?
'But it's pretty silly to not think it will be compared to youtube. It's even called PeerTube, pretty obviously. youtube became so popular to inspire peertube in the first place thanks to its monetization. So it's a very obvious thing to bring up.' or that
it makes it clear what I think about people being able to get paid for their work and 'they would not otherwise make them' is bullshit i never said. they would never make the videos that in recent years made youtube the place it is nowadays, but they would make some other stuff.
Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform
#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read all your comments and as far as I can see they presuppose that people are making videos to make money and would not otherwise make them.
'if you work hard enough and put in enough work that people watch 4000 hours of your videos in last year, and eventually you want to quit the job you don't like and just get paid by creating for people like that guy, and that guy says "monetization is the problem I have", it's kind of sociopathic. Drawing this line between work and hobby, like you have to do stuff you hate for money and god forbid you start getting p…
> they would never make the videos that in recent years made youtube the place it is nowadays, but they would make some other stuff.
Yes, that's exactly it. What I'm saying is I'm fine with not having the videos that in recent years made youtube the place it is nowadays, and I'm fine with the other stuff.