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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Slow_Hand »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere.

I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait.

In the absence of this feature my inbox becomes a torrent of incoming mail that is far harder to manage and prioritize. I keep my inbox at "zero" and I can completely understand why other people give up and let their inbox be overrun. This feature is essential for me.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by busymom0 »

gs17 wrote: post #330

It's really bizarre at this point. I'm okay with things like having one-click options for simple replies like "That time works for me" (Google Messages on Android is hilariously bad at these but it's at least useful occasionally). I'm not okay with it suggesting a whole point-by-point response to someone else. Today I had an email from a colleague where it had a suggested reply so large it didn't fit in the preview b…

> it's a waste of everyone's time!

Plus it's a huge waste of natural resources for the energy usage!

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by monkpit »

munk-a wrote: post #341
monkpit wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either rely upon everyone else changing their behavior, or give up and use your LLM to re-compress incoming messages to be informationally dense as you see fit.

Personally, I'm confident with my level of output so I'll continue to dutifully read all the crap that gets sent to me on company time. I'll just prefer to engage with people who communicate well and encourage that in others.

A privileged position to be in, for sure! Congrats

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by al_borland »

gs17 wrote: post #330

It's really bizarre at this point. I'm okay with things like having one-click options for simple replies like "That time works for me" (Google Messages on Android is hilariously bad at these but it's at least useful occasionally). I'm not okay with it suggesting a whole point-by-point response to someone else. Today I had an email from a colleague where it had a suggested reply so large it didn't fit in the preview b…

One could argue the “That time works for me” prompts are also a waste of time, especially when only occasionally useful. Do we really need a button to type 5 words on an occasional basis?

I’ve used the button before, but I think my life would be exactly the same without it.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by dyauspitr »

saint_yossarian wrote: post #237
dyauspitr wrote: post #85

What I fucking hate more than anything else is this new nonsense about me approaching the 15 GB limit and then when I want to clean things up, it has zero tools that make any sense. Like just let me sort all of my messages with the largest sized messages on top. Instead it gives me some random selection of messages of varying sizes, most less than 1 MB. You cannot sort it in anyway. Horrible. Horrible I am so angry.…

You can use the advanced search to find mails larger than X. Also if you're not aware, Google Photos lets you downscale photos and videos so they don't count towards your quota at all. See "Recover storage" on https://photos.google.com/quotamanagement

Thank you. I’m aware but I’m referring to what they show on their actual clean up tool attached to the you’re approaching your storage limit message. It’s an infuriating dark pattern.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by EchoReflection »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Fastmail is great. I also use (and really like) Fairemail https://email.faircode.eu/

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

Slow_Hand wrote: post #361
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

Mash that unsubscribe button my dude.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by rjh29 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #132
trvz wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I chose to set a browser bookmark with the corresponding GET parameters.

Bookmarks is a surprisingly underutilized feature of browsers, I constantly see tons of people doing 5-6 clicks going to some page, I'm guessing simply they don't know about it. Similarly, lots of powerusers who don't know about "javascript:" bookmarks that basically behaves like tiny like browser extensions (the content-script part specifically) when you click on them.

That's because due to modern PWAs (and less modern POST requests and cookies) you can bookmark a URL and it still won't actually work when you try to recall it. It's become a feature for power users.

For example, a naive user will think they can bookmark their shopping cart page and that'll snapshot the exact items in the cart.

I've noticed people tend to use their website's native bookmark feature, like insta saved posts, or they share pages with the google app to save them to a list. If a site has a Share button then you at least know it'll work.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by _carbyau_ »

greenavocado wrote: post #303
setopt wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then there’s probably some underlying belief that more volume shows more effort Hopefully, LLMs will kill that attitude in the long run

LLM generated texts are an API ideal for interfacing with boomers

The boomers I know are grumpy, impatient, can smell bullshit a mile away and are almost insultingly terse. Which is honestly refreshing.

So LLMs have no place for me in this regard.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by [deleted] »

bee_rider wrote: post #108
triMichael wrote: post #10

While I haven't had this issue with Gmail, I recently got a new computer and the first two weeks for full of moments like this. It's shocking to me how much we've let popups go rampant on everything. Perhaps the worst offender is Windows update, as it won't even let you use your own computer without clicking through 10 screens refusing all sorts of products they are trying to push on you.

It’s less surprising with Windows. Google really was competent in the 2005-2020 era (probably further on the left, that’s just as far as I remember). I don’t think Microsoft has seriously disappointed anybody paying attention since 2012 or so.

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