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The coffee shop doesn't have wifi?
It's not very good and SSH is blocked.
I always use a VPN (to my own home server) for this reason (and other reasons) when connecting to public WiFi.
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#362> Hardware of that caliber requires a highly optimized operating system to function properly.
But unfortunately, you get Windows
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If they put Linux on it I'd buy it, but with Windows 11, no thanks.
They did put linux on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux
That's not Linux, that's a VM running Linux on Windows. Not very satisfying if you want the real thing, or want a real Linux DE.
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#364> Built on Windows aaaaand... scene! No thank you, and goodbye
Most people who use this won't have a choice. It will be forced on them by employers.
I don't think many employers (that still issue Windows laptops to people) are going to be dropping $4.5k+ for their users at scale.
There's companies out there still handing out cheap 8GB Dells with 1080p screens.
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#365Imagine thinking the rivalry is about hardware and not software... Same for IOS vs Android.
I mean, it's both. PC OEM laptops have sucked for 6+ years that Apple silicon has been out. Apple makes the best laptops on the market.
I'm glad the PC industry is hopefully waking up, finally. I'd like to see some good hardware with Linux support. That's all I've wanted, a macbook pro experience on Linux.
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#366Prominent dual fans?
Hell no. Who would think that’s a good idea?
One of the absolutely best things about the MacBook Pro is that it’s silent when you’re not really pushing it. It’s incredibly rare for me to hear them on my M4 Pro. Normal work, including compiling, using docker, my IDE, etc. almost never does it unless I do something big over and over and over.
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a single sound out of my M3 Air. I think it has a fan. I know my M1 didn’t.
Make the coolest computer you want. If noise is a prominent feature I will never go within 10 feet of it.
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#367The Surface line is, HW-wise, very good IMHO. Too bad the software is awful. Thankfully the Linux Surface community is pretty strong. Proprietary Microsoft drivers don't make it easy, but we're getting there... https://github.com/linux-surface/surface-pro-x I'll buy another one if there's some commitment from Microsoft to be more open source friendly, but since this will never happen, they can keep their HW.
>Too bad the software is awful. I swear, people just live in their echochambers these days. Win 11 pro + WSL2 is literally the best, do it all OS you can get these days. Most peoples experience is with Windows home, which ironically is about as intrusive as Mac OS. When you get Windows Pro, you can disable all the annoying AI/Advertising shit that comes with Windows, and at that point, you get a system that is cleane…
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I worked with some of the people responsible for the Surface Book, Surface docks, and specifically the Surface Book's dock. These were hardware people (EEs), not software people, and this was after their time at MS. Unfortunately I don't remember specifics (both because it's been a few years, and because I'd probably have to fuzz details anyway), but... : Docks are horrifying products. Thunderbolt docks are doubly ho…
> They ordered in every single competing dock they could find, from that era's products, and found that every last one was garbage in some way or other, usually fatally so. It is so hard to believe that when more than 1000 employees at my employers are also using at least one dock (Dell and Thinkpad both) and using them very well.
I think 2017 is the big thing here.
We had those early "blessed by Apple" USB-C LG monitors. Garbage when it came to connectivity. Same with docks and the like.
We're now 9 years later so... I think it's all better now than before.
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Here is a particularly irritating example. Cabinet Vision, some CAD type of software. Requires ancient .NET. That actually is available for Arm though. Required Jet DB driver 2010, which doesn’t exist on Arm, although it’s only needed for the installer. Requires SQL Server embedded 2012 and 2016, which don’t exist on Arm at all. Yep, both versions. Also required PowerShell version 2, which was deprecated in 2017, alt…
I try to avoid Microsoft products these days (modern dotnet is pretty nice though), but from my past experience, I believe every bit of this and have run into all of these with other software, including the requiring of multiple versions of MSSQL Embedded, which is just unholy.
Not really Microsoft’s fault, except that their exceptional backwards compatibility means vendors get away with requiring 16-year-old libraries.