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Google's Antigravity bait and switch
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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#362Grok agrees with you. I really don't understand this.
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_abc82dc6-7a1f-436e-9ec6-3d96...
I don't find this move by Google hostile at all. Maybe because I was on Linux and wasn't affected the same way- I had to install it as a separate 2.0 application (all old AGY things are still there).
It just feels like they released a new product to me and calling it hostile or bait-and-switch seems ungrateful.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
They had the lead for maybe a week or two. Now, only Apple is further behind.
Apple may be behind, and even getting sued for false advertising around AI features, but at least they haven’t spent hundreds of billions of dollars with no indication of how they’ll make their money back.
You’re right, they’re simply playing a different game. That said, Apple sold millions of phones with the promise that 3 months later users would be able to use AI to automate their phones and use Siri similar to how they use ChatGPT. That was summer 2024, and it still hasn’t shipped.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#364I for one am glad they did it because I felt like it was a little bit... I just felt the company as big as Google, it felt wrong for them to be piggybacking off VS Code.
I know it was MIT license, but honestly, I feel better knowing that they're making their own product. So, you know, it goes both ways. I think they did the right thing to migrate off Microsoft's code just out of respect.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#365> The day was to begin like any other, with Antigravity open > This unexpected shift completely broke my preferred workflow it might not have been so unexpected if you knew you were one of ~15 people that start their day with Antigravity
students get a couple free years of a Google One subscription which comes with access to the nicer models and some free claude credits to use inside Antigravity IDE. Though there's a small chance I'm wrong and everyone has access to those models.
The free tokens is the only reason why I've been using Antigravity. And after this god awful update (I had the exact same scenario as the article author) and once my free student plan runs out, I'm immediately switching to something else.
Makes me wish we could regulate these big tech companies and run them big fines whenever they abuse their monopoly by unnecessarily downgrading the experience for users. I hate how all their stocks continue to climb despite headline after headline of new updates breaking things for users. It's like they can just do whatever they want and never get punished for it meaningfully.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gemini CLI is being sunsetted in mid-June and replaced by Antigravity. https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transi...
I've mostly avoided the frustration of dealing with google's product rug pulls over the years by never getting hooked on a non-gmail product. Alas, I now feel the sting of disappointment.
Belated follow up: I was able to install the agy cli directly without the IDE (perhaps this was a change made in the interim).
I ran it last night and it was just fine as a drop-in replacement for my usage. Disappointment averted with minimal effort on my part (it helps that my typical workflow is pretty mundane/close to the defaults).
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gemma 4 31b is better for coding than Gemini in my limited testing on a small C project single source file project, less than 1000 lines. Setting temperature to 0 gives better results for me. It seems like Gemini ignores the system prompt more and the default reasoning output seems more incoherent.
> Gemma 4 31b is better for coding than Gemini Is there a fine-tuned Gemma coding model? I'd assume that would perform quite well.
I don't know, but for me setting temperature to 0 has a noticeable impact. I don't think you need a fine tune.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could just call it anything else and left the existing user alone. I mean they have gemini CLI, which I would say a better product.
> I mean they have gemini CLI Uhhh, about that :) Gemini CLI (the open source cli) is being deprecated, and the recommended replacement is Antigravity CLI (which supposedly comes with the new Antigravity, not the IDE). shrug . Surely this will be maintained long term...
Google makes no sense. They can make a good product from time to time but as soon as people like it, they shut it down. for me personally (google podcasts, google calendar with the goals feature) the old assistant that was able to do stuff like set alarms and gemini now can't