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5 years at Tesla is an eternity in the tech world. And 2 years is probably pretty average for the whole tech industry.

> And 2 years is probably pretty average for the whole tech industry. maybe for a fungible CRUD engineer. I think Karpathy is in a different league and I'm certainly surprised to hear this fact. I would expect someone like him to sit within a certain lab for a long time

> And 2 years is probably pretty average for the whole tech industry.

Yes, and it is a problem

> maybe for a fungible CRUD engineer

And there's the cause.

We're in a meat grinder, and there is no $100M payout in sight for most of us

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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> the bet on camera-only driven system did not pay off This is a pretty unsubstantiated claim. Tesla is now launching robotaxis at a fraction of the cost of Waymos, in part because they don't need all the Lidar.

Let's say it is an opinion. But Tesla has been promising full self-driving "next year" for quite a long time now, and it seems they are stuck at the "95% there" stage basically forever.

Tesla will crack it, I expect, just much later than Waymo. But Waymo cant optimise their own robots. I expect the cost and knowledge curve to rapidly go agaisnt Waymo eventually. Being able to build the robotaxis at scale is a huge advantage. Im no fan of Musk.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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> just becomes a glorified marketer That implies Karpathy is either dumb or desperate and he is neither of those by a long shot.

No it doesn’t? It matches his skills to the lab’s needs. Karpathy is a media personality, manager, and educator far more than he is a hands-on researcher.

he’s not a hands-in researcher just like lebron is not a basketball player but media personality :)

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Depends on the country, I guess. In Europe, it would definitely not be the norm and I would definitely call previous employers if it was several 2 year stints.

Europe is not a monolith. Lots of short stints is not unusual in London.

London has not been part of Europe for a decade now. They locked themselves out in a bout of insanity

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Funny. He foreshadowed this in a recent interview. Saying that he may fall out of touch with evolving approaches and if any of the frontier labs would have him, he’d be interested. https://youtu.be/kwSVtQ7dziU?t=47m50s

I wonder if he had to answer a few Leetcode / Codility problems first.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Tesla self driving works. I don’t know if Karpathy deserves credit for that or not.

Tesla self driving kind of works. In a very similar way to how it kind of worked back in 2016. It's better than it was in 2016, don't get me wrong. But even today they haven't solved the problem and Karpathy left in 2022. And other companies notably have actually surpassed Tesla over that time. I don't think anyone could reasonably say he walked away in 2022 because he thought the job was finished.

Who surpassed Tesla that doesn't operate in some very limited region?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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We are in the early stages of AI. Anthropic is Altavista and OpenAI is AskJeeves or something. 10-20 years from now the scene will be unrecognizable and all of this will be inconsequential but at the same time it is the fondation on which tomorrow is built.

Anthropic looks a lot more like early Google -- not the first mover, but "lightning in a bottle" culture, talent, focus, and product direction that causes them to become a dominant, enduring figure.

OpenAI looks a lot more like early Yahoo -- earlier, quite a spectacle at first, definitely a game-changer and disruptor, but overspent, less focused, and subject to slow collapse under its own fragmentation and lack of overwhelming clarity of mission and purpose.

All that said, history rhymes but does not repeat, and trying to map present-day companies onto previous generations is an exercise in futility. The future is fundamentally unique.

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> And 2 years is probably pretty average for the whole tech industry. maybe for a fungible CRUD engineer. I think Karpathy is in a different league and I'm certainly surprised to hear this fact. I would expect someone like him to sit within a certain lab for a long time

He's an extraordinarily bright guy. He can get a lot more done in two years than most people, and he can get up to speed with a new organization and a new task and be productive much faster than most people. My impression with no inside knowledge, but understanding what Elon companies are like, is that he was assigned essentially an impossible task at Tesla and tried his very best, but it could not be done, and he se…

And in the case where a team gets overworked, there are legions more fresh and bright engineers to burn.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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He may not be a brilliant researcher, but he is a brilliant teacher. I am glad he is joining Anthropic so he can stay up to date with the next round of things that he will teach :)

It is a pity we don't hear more about the truly brilliant researchers. All we hear is Altman, Musk, ...

> It is a pity we don't hear more about the truly brilliant researchers.

Reason? What is the value of that other than entertainment? And it's not in the interest of companies to make celebrities that then are poach targets (if they can avoid they would yes there are exceptions as noted elsewhere in this thread).

And if you did 'hear' (via articles) to what extent what was said even be correct vs. a writer just fluffing things up to the max.

Tech is not sports where you can actually see the superlatives and know that the person who praise is being lavished on actually won or threw or caught and so on. (Or even music where you can hear it and see the stadium that is packed with fans..)

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