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AI subscriptions are a ticking time bomb for enterprise

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Re: AI subscriptions are a ticking time bomb for enterprise

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Post by Sharlin »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #107
radicalbyte wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something I have noticed is that the people who are using it to write everything are the same people who had a poor level of English writing a year or two ago. It's just "intellectual" botox.

Would make sense ... writing is a skill, and one that I think most people are proud of if they are good at it. Maybe it's different if you are doing technical/commercial writing, but for social media where you are writing for fun, and to express yourself, it'd be odd to let AI be your voice unless you realize your own writing is very poor.

Many, many people post to social media not for fun, but to maintain a more-or-less fake image or to advance some sort of agenda.

Re: AI subscriptions are a ticking time bomb for enterprise

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Post by moffkalast »

the_gipsy wrote: post #54
Sharlin wrote: post #18

I think I'm going to puke if I see one more "It's not X. It's Y." phrase or the word "load-bearing" used metaphorically.

It's not metaphorical. It's load-bearing.

Load bearing slop phrases, you're touching up on something real!

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Post by marmarama »

esseph wrote: post #247
jazzyjackson wrote: post #169

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No, it's economies of scale and I don't understand where anyone is coming from that thinks they'll be better off buying their own hardware, why would you get a better deal on MATMULs/watt than the cloud providers ?

Within 5-10 years you're going to see a box like one of those AMD Halo nodes running homes. They'll be controlling lights and temperature, they'll be adding calendar reminders that show up on your phone and your fridge. Your phone and devices might sync pictures and videos there instead of the large cloud providers. They'll also be a media server, able to stream and multiplex whatever content you want through the hom…

Umm, you can do basically all of this, today, with Home Assistant and a handful of add-on apps.

I use a local LLM with it, but you can use a hosted LLM if you like.

The core home automation stuff can run on a potato. The LLM just writes new automations when I ask it, or acts as a natural language interface.

I use a pretty small 4B parameter local LLM, on a fairly modest mini PC. It doesn't take a frontier model to do that kind of work.

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Post by slantaclaus »

nate8bit wrote: post #159

The entire problem with "AI" is that it's easy to do without. The AI companies know it, the users know it - even the most pro AI agent manager knows it. Thought experiment: remove AI from the world right now, all of it - what do you have? Business as usual. This article doesn't do enough to underscore that - dreaded be the day I need to get an actual engineer to review a PR, right?

Obviously you are a JavaScript developer. I for one can’t do without it for the sake of writing JavaScript

Re: AI subscriptions are a ticking time bomb for enterprise

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Post by Sharlin »

gjvc wrote: post #346
Sharlin wrote: post #18

I think I'm going to puke if I see one more "It's not X. It's Y." phrase or the word "load-bearing" used metaphorically.

witness the first signs of AI fatigue

Based on the number of upvotes my comment has received (70+ as of now), it's nowhere near "first signs" any more, and hasn't been in a while.

Re: AI subscriptions are a ticking time bomb for enterprise

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Post by upcoming-sesame »

adrithmetiqa wrote: post #160
evo_9 wrote: post #79

Every AI subscription is a ticking time bomb for the frontier provider; within a few years we will be running local models as good as today’s frontier models with almost no cost burden. The floor will fall out of the enterprise market for all the frontier companies.

I disagree. No one will want to use second rate models when the frontier models reach a specific level of capability. Enterprise will keep paying.

not every company can pay for the best engineers in the market, some can only afford to pay for cheaper engineers and it's fine

same with models.

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Post by tyre »

alecco wrote: post #263
tyre wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese models should stay close on a lag. They’re doing a ton of distillation that, realistically, I’m not sure the American frontiers can stop.

US labs got tough on "adversarial" distillation [1]. I suspect that's one of several reasons why Chinese big labs are lagging again. [0] US AI firms team up in bid to counter Chinese 'distillation' (Apr 7) https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/us-ai-...

Yeah I mean the US has gotten tough on, like, foreign interference in elections and cyber security, but if you have the Chinese state behind you—which they absolutely do and as an observer, obviously, they have to—no company can stop them.

Case in point: North Korea, with far, far fewer resources.

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