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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by goatlover »

cyanydeez wrote: post #300
kingleopold wrote: post #220

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state did this for centuries or longer btw. they create violence/war in some area of the planet, then offer to "fix it". like wmd's in iraq and hormuz problem now, lmao. remember how hormuz was not a problem and it was wideoy peaceful and open months ago? lol

you can just say "Society"; it's bizarre people think there's some magic to governance that's above in beyond people forming groups and rules.

Depends on how democratic the Society is. The less so, the more it's a powerful minority at the top. How much say did the average US citizen have in starting this war with Iran? It's not something the current administration ran on to get elected. It's not very popular in the polling.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by dakolli »

raincole wrote: post #159
dgan wrote: post #74

Industry really went from "prove you are not a robot", to "but also if you are, this way please"

This is Cloudflare. They have an extremely strong incentive to increase bot usage. If there is no bot scrapping the internet they'll be out of business.

I've been using cloudflares remote browser api to bypass their own WAFs for my scrapers for a while, their products and services have been wildly contradictory for a while.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by dakolli »

faangguyindia wrote: post #29

One of the well-kept secrets about Cloudflare is: You can have a zero-cost inbox. Earlier, I was using Zoho and FastMail (however you dice it, it will use some money, $12 a year for Zoho and $7 per month for FastMail? Even then, perhaps you only get one mailbox and some aliases) but with this method, I get unlimited aliases, domains, and mailboxes: Now, I wrote a script which captures the email and saves attachments…

Its technically limited to 200 emails per domain. But yes, this is the way.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by threethirtytwo »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #45
threethirtytwo wrote: post #16

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It’s not AIifying one thing. It’s AIifying the entire work flow… every detail. Allowing domain names is just one aspect of it. The agent does everything. “Make a website that does…“ and it can handle everything from start to finish. It’s that good now.

The question was what's in the dots. I have no doubt that agentic systems are good enough to buy domains and make one-shot websites from a prompt, but what is the legitimate use case for which you'd want to repeatedly perform "Make a website that does..." on a new domain?

I had to conduct a remote interview for a company I just joined and we had no tools to do it. So I vibe coded a live code sharing app. That shares an editor and is able to run code in a sandbox. This was last night. The interview I just finished an hour ago.

In the middle of the interview there was a bug where our sessions no longer synced. So that’s a downside. But before that the interview was perfect.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by jacobheric »

aleqs wrote: post #345
jacobheric wrote: post #248

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It's provisioning expressed as an API, but wrapped in a cli that agents can very easily use. Then anyone that implements the API is added to a marketplace of services. And the ability to pay for service is baked in because it's stripe. The end result is that as an engineer I can ask an agent to use the stripe cli to discover and provision, including paying for, a wide variety of services and it mostly just works.

Is it expressed as an API though? Does Stripe Projects have a documented public API? Also isn't the payments for this involve manually entering payment/card info (meaning it could theoretically be done a dozen different ways which do not require Stripe)? In theory, this is a cool idea, but in practice I think this being done through a proprietary, locked-in Stripe product, is going to ultimately hinder adoption. The…

I asked them and they said the plan is to make the spec public. I'll leave it up to them to say when that will happen. I'll say the spec is pretty flexible/configurable. You can swap our payment providers, it does not have to be stripe. And you can configure who does kyc and you can do that yourself.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by lxgr »

xp84 wrote: post #360
lxgr wrote: post #136

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Yes, this is exactly my hope too. Many hacker/cypherpunk ideas failed or never reached wide adoption because they were just too complicated for regular people: GPG/web of trust, self-hosting websites and email, having your own custom software for personal tasks… Instead, everybody ended up using Gmail, iMessage/WhatsApp, and Facebook, and things are as centralized as they can be. Agents could be a force in breaking t…

> things are as centralized as they can be. Interesting evolution: 1980s and before - Centralized computers, thin clients & terminals 1990s - Decentralized computing - rich clients running native code locally, data lives locally, making use of the network for necessary communication (e.g. email, IM) Present day - Entirely centralized data, compute outsourced from companies to 'Public Clouds', bloated clients running…

I suppose it might be one of those things that just oscillate in society, since neither extreme is without frustrations. And as soon as the generation most familiar with the specific downsides of either extreme steps aside, the cycle of history repeats.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by tardedmeme »

kortilla wrote: post #354
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #255

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> Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. No kidding. > One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shri…

Despite paying rent for an apartment, it’s not rent-seeking. You get a place to live out of it that wouldn’t exist without the owner renting it to you. Rent-seeking is a very specific economic term where a party inserts themselves into a transaction and takes a cut without providing anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking Being a landlord comes with significant responsibilities and even principal investm…

A landlord is partially rent-seeking. Yes they provide the service of making sure the apartment is habitable (cough) and so on, but they charge above market price for that. How do I know? I know because I'd do it myself for cheaper if that was an option, but it's not an option because landlords own all the spare apartments. (Why don't I buy one then? They're very expensive because I have to price-match the landlords, who are paying very high prices for the right to rent-seek!)

The market for real estate is basically the market for taxi medallions. It costs something to run a taxi, but there are a limited number of medallions and you can charge well over that cost because you have a medallion, which also makes the medallions very expensive. Until Uber comes along. But you can't just make an illegal apartment without land the same way you can make an illegal taxi without a medallion.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by tardedmeme »

ttul wrote: post #239
grey-area wrote: post #69

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Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

I'm convinced that one of the top use cases for OpenClaw is orchestrating cold outreach email campaigns, as if there's nothing wrong with using AI to spam people to death. Platforms that enable sending cold emails are taking a sizeable risk that the low engagement of such emails stimulates some worsening inbox deliverability for the rest of their traffic (see [1] - you can't hide just by sending through big tenanted…

Doesn't Amazon let you create many accounts?
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