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Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by kjkjadksj »

rootusrootus wrote: post #359
kjkjadksj wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just did a search on the bolt and apparently users are having to modify their antennae to stop onstar telemetry. Kia also collects telemetry. Equinox also with the onstar issue. Ford also collects telemetry. Once again, are there any that work functionally like my airgapped ICE car? It is only 8 years old. I’m worried there aren’t.

OnStar telemetry has been a thing since well before your 8 year old car. As I said, nothing to do with being an EV. All new cars have some variety of telemetry. You may choose not to buy a newer car, but it has nothing to do with whether it is an EV or not. But be careful because an 8 year old ICEV from GM has OnStar

No onstar here. No satellite or cellular antenna either. Again, I know my machine. There is no data going out. Seems now there is no choice I suppose. Older cars are like low background steel now.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by Alifatisk »

> it will also limit or disable certain functionality in the vehicle (e.g., navigation, active lane centering, and over-the-air updates, which provide new features, better performance, safety enhancements, and bug fixes).

I fear this trend in the automotive industry will only complicate things further and introduce more unnecessary risk in our daily life. Is it too much to ask for a dumb car which is durable and takes me from point A to point B? I do not want my future car to be dependent on the manufacturers CI/CD pipeline.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by biosboiii »

fyi: modern vehicles are required to have a e(mergency)Call function (UNECE UN-R 144), therefore all of these cars have a modem with a unique IMEI (that is typically bound to a VIN), therefore you can track the movements of every car pretty precisely.

Disabling the eCall is not possible, and doing so (in the EU) would void your car's registration.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by brokenmachine »

duskdozer wrote: post #299
brokenmachine wrote: post #226

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The perfect modern consumer/sucker... My car needed another key. The stealership quoted me >$400 for it. I took it as a personal insult and did the research and ordered an OBD device and also discovered you can order replacement keys on aliexpress, and they'll even cut them for you with a good picture of your existing key. It was actually a fun project and very satisfying when I was able to successfully program and l…

>May not be feasible with more locked-down modern cars which I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole What's your plan for the future? I have an old car, but I know it won't last forever.

My plan for the future is a trailbike, a tent and a shotgun.

But with regard to a car, I don't know. I'll just do the best I can when the time comes. I'm hopeful there'll be options available or where I can cut antennas or whatever.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by Svoka »

b3lvedere wrote: post #270
Svoka wrote: post #238

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I feel like I am getting access to lots of products in part shaped by my data. It is not like I have better things to do with it.

No worries that processed data might profile you in a bad way in the forseeable future?

Not really. I have enough to worry about in the present rather than worry about imaginary future scenarios. I also think that since this is something most people are agreeing to, if it would turn really sour there would be enough of public outrage to make the worst of consequences illegal.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by johnea »

babypuncher wrote: post #42
johnea wrote: post #18

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So why would you prefer goggle's "control the user experience" power-tripping, to rivian's? I'd much rather side with the company that was willing to allow the user to disable net connectivity...

Ideally, they would support Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. There are a few big reasons this is preferable. - I already pay for internet on my phone, I'm not interested in paying for another cellular service just to get maps and music streaming on the screen in my car. GM ditched CarPlay specifically to push customers to their subscription service. I know some electric automakers are offering it "for free", but I do…

Goggle sucks at software too, for everyone that's not goggle...

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by VortexLain »

smotched wrote: post #82
VortexLain wrote: post #78

It would have been much better to be able to disable telemetry without losing basic functionality such as navigation and safety updates. Having to choose between being spied on and having no connectivity at all is a false dichotomy.

what telemetry are you worried about if you're already sharing your exact location at all times (navigation)

GPS and other similar technologies work by passively listening to the satellite signals without having to respond to them in any manner. Location is calculated based on time it took for the signal from difficult beacons to arrive.
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