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Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#361

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I only know chartreuse from fishing lures.

I only know chartreuse from the liquor. I thought it was green though.

There is yellow Chartreuse as well. I seem to recall preferring the yellow, though it's been over a decade, so I can't remember how either one tastes.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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The current use of "cyan" for blue-green is a modern confusion caused by people who have used Greek words without bothering to check their true meaning. In Ancient Greek, "cyan" was blue, not blue-green. More precisely, it was the color of the pigment "ultramarine blue", which has remained widely used until today. The name of this pigment was already used by the Hittites, long before the Greeks. An example of a Latin…

I found this an interesting "actually...", not sure why you're being downvoted. Ofc the modern usage is not necessarily a "confusion" because of an older meaning, maybe that's bothering people, but I read it as tongue-in-cheek. I prefer "turquoise" anyway, which is more common in German for blue-greenish colors.

There is no doubt that confusions are the origin of these English words.

It is extremely unlikely that any of those who introduced these words in English chose intentionally to use them for other things than for what they had been used for millennia.

For a modern user, it is no longer a confusion to use such words in their currently widespread sense. When speaking to others, I also use such words with their current meaning, in order to be understood.

Nevertheless, it is good to know their original meanings, especially when reading older texts, which may use those meanings. I have seen a lot of ridiculous claims about texts written in the Antiquity, or even about some texts written a couple of centuries ago, where those who had read those texts had been mislead by believing that the words had the same meaning as in modern English.

Especially about the colors known by ancient people, e.g about the Ancient Greeks, there have been many fantastic theories, e.g. that the Ancient Greeks did not know blue or brown, when already in the Iliad of Homer there are a lot of instances of words meaning "blue" (= "the color of the ultramarine blue pigment") or "brown" (= "the color of burnt wood").

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#364

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> most people acknowledge that there is a color between blue and green For many people, there is no difference between blue and green at all! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue%E2%80%93green_distinction...

>For many people, there is no difference between blue and green at all! That's sorta not true, it's just a quirk of language development. If they only have one word that covers both, they use additional words to describe the actual shade they're talking about.

Of these, the only language that I know a bit about, in Chinese 青 (blue/green) is the older word and nowadays used less than the more modern 蓝 (blue) and 绿 (green), but actually 青 is still used a lot in specific phrases, and I prefer to think of it as the "colour of things in nature" - so a blue sky would be 青, a blue/green sea would be 青 and a field of lush grass would also be 青. That aspect also comes through in how it's used metaphorically, in the senses of youth or vitality.

This is the same character that's used for Japanese traffic lights when foreigners find it funny that they call obviously green lights "blue".

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#365
Though everyone calls a solid blue color as blue, the actual visual perception or experience of that color could be entirely different. They just grew up calling that experience of their own, as blue color.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#366

The other week my wife and I were disagreeing over whether a house was green or blue. I was shocked when every passerby we asked agreed with her that it was green. I was absolutely 100% sure it was blue. Turns out according to this site, my boundary is greener than 95% of the population! Funny to see this proved out here!

I am bluer than 78%. Colors. How do they work.

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Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#367

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correctness is not the point. binary choice is the whole point. because my blue may not be your blue...

It's so remarkable how many people here refuse to understand your point. It's like, there is no right or wrong, no perfect score, just pure subjectiveness, and they can't handle it. If I wasn't convinced this site is entirely bots before, I might be now....

It is enlightening to see who has been fixed on math proofs as testing and who has been exposed to observational testing. Seems many people have been brain washed into the former, forgetting the latter exists.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#368

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I think the premise could be stated more clearly. It is a boolean choice. What do you think it is closer to. Once I figured it, I tried it 2 more times ... and got different results :) but the new results were consistent.

Agreed, there is no clear premise. Of course that different people looking at the same object will use different colour words is a triviality that anyone over, say, 10 years old knows. If that's the premise of the site, it is boring. People are getting excited because they think this implies something about differences in vision or perception... but it doesn't, that requires much more cleverness to test.

Or suspension of expectations…

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#369

I never understood "forced classification" games like this (as an aside, it's also why I always hated Myers Briggs). Maybe it's because I'm somewhere on the spectrum, but it always seems like a dumb, false choice to me. For example, when I saw the second color, "aqua" immediately popped into my mind. Aqua is literally defined as #00FFFF in RGB color space - no red, equal (max) parts blue and green. So it just felt li…

I hereby propose the Turquoise Trolley Problem (TTP):

If you say the trolley is blue, it goes straight, where there's a baby in the tracks. If the trolley is green, two grandmas die.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

#370
What a fun site. Obviously results will depend on the monitor. At the last screen picture which show "where is my blue" and the gradient from green to blue I moved it from one monitor to other - what a difference! Time to dig into monitors setting to get more consistency (or for new monitors - do the color change with time? - one is more lit in the morning by sun but other do not get direct sunlight almost at all- both are the same type). What is funny it did not bother me at all - I do not work with any graphics and color. But probably now it will :).
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