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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by muyuu »

operatingthetan wrote: post #90
jmcodes wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same loved them, told my team about them, got them to switch off of cursor, now I'm telling them to swap to Codex. Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.

I think we are inevitably heading to using the cheap Chinese models like Kimi, GLM, and Minimax for the bulk of engineering tasks. Within 3-6 months they will be at Opus 4.6 level.

Kimi 2.6 works roughly like Opus 4.6, when it used to work. Depending on the task, a bit better or a bit worse. And it's MUCH cheaper.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by nemomarx »

rafael-lua wrote: post #349

I'm out of the loop. Do you guys use Claude subscriptions for Claude Code rather than just pay-as-you-go API keys? Is it cost related?

I mean one is a flat 20 a month and pay as you go is going to go over that for any heavy coding use, right?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by davikr »

mudkipdev wrote: post #127
danielspace23 wrote: post #52

With GLM and Kimi getting better and better, with both still providing low-cost coding plans with higher quotas, and with how trivial it is to switch to them even within Claude CLI, I'm not sure what makes Anthropic think their users would rather pay 5x than switch to the competition.

The GLM coding plan price increased dramatically

It is left unsaid, but throughput is also terrible.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by rectang »

I see lots of speculation that Anthropic needs to cut usage because they are compute constrained. If that's the case, will they be focusing on reducing compute costs for their models?

From what I can tell Opus 4.7 is more resource-intensive than Opus 4.6 is more resource-intensive than Opus 4.5.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by dml2135 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #290

Is Claude Code actually useful on the Pro plan? I remember when they first added Claude Code to Pro — it was limited to Max initially — and my first thought was that it seemed kind of stupid, because at one fifth of my current limit, I would be hitting walls all the time...

I’ve found that I hit the limit just around the end of the 5-hour window, so it’s definitely been usable for me.

But I’ve mostly been using it for gitops infrastructure in my homelab. I wonder if the token usage is lighter than if I were developing an application.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by muyuu »

peab wrote: post #112
wrxd wrote: post #85

This is a risky move. I might have paid $20/month for my personal projects but the Max subscription is a bit steep. Now I'm going to learn more about local models. I don't need to be as good as a frontier model. Good enough and free from all this drama is a win for me

the cursor 20$ a month plan has been working great for me. You can use most models, and unlimited use of composer 2, which is surprisingly good

It's a volatile space.

Cursor was just acquired by SpaceX, so let's see what happens.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by philipbjorge »

IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

gpt 5.4 has been performing great in my harness.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by Esophagus4 »

colechristensen wrote: post #193

I assume this has to do with the $20 tier now running out of provisioned tokens so quickly as to be not particularly useful, giving users a bad experience. The million token context + reduced caching period + new models using more tokens made this a probably unpopular but perhaps unavoidable development. There's a hard problem here balancing costs and experience. I'm afraid despite the bad experience for people that…

> $20/month was just too big a loss to sustain.

Is there any marginal cost associated with a new subscriber?

I have always heard inference is cheap and the cost was in training, so I assumed any subscriber was making them money, just not enough to cover their insane fixed costs.

But I am just guessing.

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