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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I'd be careful normalizing bribery. It's very micro-efficient, almost definitionally, but the macro effects of normalized bribery are well known and not good.

Bribery is the actual normal function of US politics. That’s what lobbying really amounts to. The USA has the best government that money can buy.

Until you get fascism or welfare reforms, hopefully you aren't on the chopping block by then.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

What about Apple Silicon?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

re: US Politics, I view Apple's gift of the gold & glass trophy to Trump more as a humiliation ritual Cook had to endure so that they can continue to uphold their principles, but with a less adversarial government. Sure it's gross but it does not necessarily signal an abandonment of values from Apple.

Disagree. Cook shows up to dinner parties with Trump all the time. I think he genuinely feels solidarity with the Epstein class.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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> Giving a golden statue of Trump has no effect on you and me, and a very large effect on Trump. No effect on you, really. You aren’t affected by gas prices or tariffs? They are bowing down and participating in Trump’s patronage schemes. Every powerful person who does this is complicit with all the horrible things done by the Trump administration. They are endorsing Trump and his ilk with their behavior if not their…

Trump is the president. People voted him into the Office. Tim Cook didn't give him the golden statue before he is in the Office. Everyone in the United States is complicit to the horrible things done by the Trump administration by your logic. I partially agree, but I also think burning Apple to the ground will not be Tim Cook's legacy and he is in no place to go against the executive branch. It is not about Trump, it…

Cook stood up to the FBI. He could have stood up to Trump -- he just didn't want to.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

> Apple hardware is already amazing

Apple also made some amazing hardware blunders.

My personal favorite is the force-touch home button on the previous generation iPhones and iPads wouldn't work if you were wearing a band-aid. I don't mean the fingerprint reader, it wouldn't even click. So don't ever cut yourself if you were planning to unlock your phone ever. It added basically nothing for the end user over the previous physical home button besides rendering the vibrate function wimpy and useless.

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I'm quite curious what Tim Cook's legacy will end up being. There is no question many of Apple's business experienced significant, impressive growth during his tenure. Amazing capital efficiency. There is also no question Apple lost product velocity. Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success. Tim was, at the end of the day, an elite financial operator. Apple shareholders were lucky to have…

Things he effectively presided over: * Apple Silicon, the most far-reaching technical transformation in the company's history (probably a bigger deal than macOS itself) * Apple Pay * The Watch and Airpods product categories, both of which Apple now dominates. All while holding on to its position in phones and improving (drastically) its computers. It feels like a pretty successful term.

Yes, a very successful CEO and he secured a great legacy. I was skeptical when Jobs stepped down, but under Cook innovation did continue, but primarily in hardware.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

> Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better. 20+ years ago, software was so horrible that we were just tolerating it, and every new OS release was a big deal because there was hope things would get better! Today an OS release comes out and I have to be bothered by automatic "you must upgrade messages" to even care. Pe…

I was using (and writing) software as long as 35+ years ago and I disagree with your assessment that we were “just tolerating it” 20 years ago. 20 years ago, I was using Mac OS X Tiger on a new Intel-based MacBook Pro and it ran like a dream, and had software which mostly followed Apple’s human interface guidelines. Now I run macOS Tahoe and curse under my breath at the lack of design consistency and the iPad-ification of the interface. I’m also shown ads, and in some cases ads that can’t be dismissed or disabled, for things like iCloud and Apple Music.

When it comes to the software, I’d take the Tiger experience over the Tahoe one hands-down.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Apple is good at hardware, they need help with software. I hope putting a hardware guy in charge can still improve this situation.

Well, if I was Apple, I would not put one of their software guys into the position since the software leadership team has been ineffective. So either hire externally (crapshoot) or promote internally. It makes sense. Hopefully the hardware guys will knock some sense into the software leadership and impose accountability in that arena.
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