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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by integralid »

PaulHoule wrote: post #347
SahAssar wrote: post #320

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> Really the EU needs to apologize for those damned cookie popups and invest in a privacy-first browser. You clearly misunderstand when they are required and how they are legally required to work, the key points (as I take them) that are often misunderstood are: * They are not about cookies, but any persistent identifier * If a identifier is needed for your core functionality (ads/tracking is not a core functionality…

Frankly I feel having to clear modal dialogs is like getting a lobotomy. I don’t ever want to see one. I don’t want to ever be asked “click on the traffic lights”. I don’t want to have to clear 1, 2, 3 or 4 more modals asking for my email address on a blog. I want “respect DNT or go to jail” GDPR normalized enshittification, turned it from something that was unambiguously evil to something that was required, virtuous…

It's not perfect but it was a step forward.

It also made people realize that they are tracked like crazy (there are regularly memes about this for example) - before people reacted to this fact like you were sharing a conspiracy theory.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by pipeline_peak »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #360
pipeline_peak wrote: post #219

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Where exactly do you expect Mozilla to gain revenue from other than non browser projects? Do you want people to pay to use Firefox?

If by "people" I mean everyone and not just direct users of their products. Something more akin to the Linux or Apache Foundations, including both private sector donations and government grants etc. A DIVERSE set of funding sources, not sharing ad revenue from a direct competitor. Having "people" directly pay to play as it were would never work, as we've seen before in other industries like news, etc.

The private sector has no need for Firefox. Government grants are better spent elsewhere.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by drzaiusx11 »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #362
drzaiusx11 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If by "people" I mean everyone and not just direct users of their products. Something more akin to the Linux or Apache Foundations, including both private sector donations and government grants etc. A DIVERSE set of funding sources, not sharing ad revenue from a direct competitor. Having "people" directly pay to play as it were would never work, as we've seen before in other industries like news, etc.

The private sector has no need for Firefox. Government grants are better spent elsewhere.

Many companies and governments have a vested interest in the web continuing to exist as an open platform and not just a corporate playground controlled by 3 corporations. Without Firefox or something like it, the web becomes a defacto standard at best, largely controlled by Google (and to a lesser extent Apple and even lesser extent Microsoft)

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by BowBun »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #47
BowBun wrote: post #21

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I'm somewhat a fan of Mozilla, but their weak governance with regards to actual plans for the future, a couple of questionable partnerships, and the graveyard of products makes it hard to trust based on a 15+ year-old reputation. Would love to see where Mozilla has meaningfully contributed to the modern tech space (things we all actually use, not Mozilla versions of more popular apps/tools)

But despite that, Mozilla is still far more trustworthy than virtually everybody else. Who would you trust more? I imagine it's a very short list. Which is a sad state of affairs.

I think it's also telling that when asked for Mozilla's contributions, the only reply was "but everyone else is worse!".

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by jamespo »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #328
jamespo wrote: post #205

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Have you donated to the Mozilla Foundation so they can ditch financial ties with Google?

I'd gladly setup a recurring donation if I knew it was going to the areas in question and NOT to separate grants to the likes of this product just announced

Yes a lot of people _say_ this.
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