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Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by duxup »

crazygringo wrote: post #300

This doesn't change things much , besides making domain name registration more difficult, but I continue to think this Spotify thing was a really dumb move on the part of Anna's Archive. AA is providing a valuable service to tons of people who don't have access to these books otherwise. There's a strong argument to be made for the moral goodness of that -- that even if it's illegal, it's at least in the spirit of a p…

Reminds me of internet archive’s emergency library that they felt magically didn’t have to follow the law because of COVID.

Some folks out there seem to have their otherwise good intentions sort of trend into self destructive waters.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by reactordev »

mystraline wrote: post #314
calfuris wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Florida got rid of that department in 2002.

I live in Indiana. MAGA governor, supermajority republican house, senate, and judges. And, no, they do not care one bit about workers, renters, and the lower class. I'm solidly middle-upper class now. Home-morgage-r. Make remote 160k, which is amazing for the area. I also live in 1 of 3 liberalish areas. Amazingly, theyre worse in things like FLOCK, taxation, gun rights, speech rights, jail decency (opposition to ACL…

Same game, different team.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by squigz »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #195

Not sure how I feel. Anna’s Archive turned into a profit-seeking beast a long time ago. They’re also rolling in it thanks to he massive deals to “license” the content to AI companies. Libgen was a much better option.

Profit-seeking? That seems like a stretch.

Also how do you know they have any "massive deals"? Do they publish details about the money they receive?

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

> Not long after the lawsuit was filed, the shadow library removed the Spotify listing for their torrents page.

> The site’s operator, Anna’s Archivist, hoped that these removals would motivate the music industry to back down

lol

lmao even

never give these greedy corps even an inch. It won't work

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by nearlyepic »

crazygringo wrote: post #300

This doesn't change things much , besides making domain name registration more difficult, but I continue to think this Spotify thing was a really dumb move on the part of Anna's Archive. AA is providing a valuable service to tons of people who don't have access to these books otherwise. There's a strong argument to be made for the moral goodness of that -- that even if it's illegal, it's at least in the spirit of a p…

> that are just entertainment

And books aren't? What's the argument here? If it's that books serve a special purpose because they convey ideas and therefore it's a moral good to disseminate those ideas, you have to extend that to media beyond just the printed word. Music has that same potential (an even greater one, I would argue). It feels weird to pick and choose media like that.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

TomasBM wrote: post #124
stuffn wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copying intellectual property is not piracy. This term was co-opted by big industries to insure the cash cattle continue to pay. Piracy has a very specific sting to it. This was a deliberate choice. We don't call burglary "piracy", yet if we relax the definition enough to include IP theft, it is also piracy. GabeN also had the wrong take in that it's a "supply problem" or whatever nonsense he said. GabeN is in fact a…

While I also find various approaches and reasons behind IP governance dumb, copying IP is piracy. In practice, copying some things is unlawful, regardless if we think it shouldn't be or if piracy once only referred to naval burglary. If you copy a book in a bookstore, or leave a perfect synthetic copy of a natural diamond you take, you'll likely be charged with something . Digitally, that's much a clearer legal charg…

Piracy started as a term directly related to theft. Its use in the modern age for copying is also an attempt to frame the activity as theft, even though there is no action that can reasonably described as theft. Copying leaves the original right where it was, so no theft has taken place. I'm not saying that violating copyright is OK, just that the terms we are using to describe the wrongness are willfully dishonest. The punishments are also not fit for the crime, but that's another matter entirely.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by mattmaroon »

zenmac wrote: post #245
JoshuaDavid wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally it is common knowledge that the onion service exists, and then people can go look at the onion service and update Wikipedia based on what they see there.

Also onion doesn't require a domain register

While true, most people don’t (and won’t ever) know how to use it. But enough will to keep Wikipedia updated I suppose.
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