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Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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This anecdote is so absurd it sounds like satire. This is the guy with the $23M mansion? > Amodei’s notes describe escalating tense encounters, including one, months later, in which Altman summoned him and his sister, Daniela, who worked in safety and policy at the company, to tell them that he had it on “good authority” from a senior executive that they had been plotting a coup. Daniela, the notes continue, “lost it…

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Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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It's really interesting reading about how these folks view LLMs. Yeah, they're transformative, but I don't know that we're going to be eating ramen in a Neo-Tokyo street bar anytime soon. So much "A.G.I" mentioned in the article.

I find it interesting how a lot of cyberpunk does not really include AI or does not present it in transformative way. There is a lot of mind uploading, implants, corpo fun and overall technology permeating all aspects of life, but often AI itself does not actually play a big role.

Deus Ex is an outlier, AI is a core part of that plot

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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The answer is no, he can't be trusted

Oh, I agree that's the correct answer. I just don't see the article actually ending up with that answer. I see it waffling. Basically, the article ends up saying that, well, we told you about all this dodgy stuff, but what he's doing is working.

God forbid an article presents all the evidence from all parties and asks you to reach a conclusion by yourself...

Sorry for the snark. But I genuinely think the way they did this was perfect.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Ronan Farrow on Hacker News. Now I’ve seen everything.

I’ve really appreciated how substantive and polite the discourse here is, overall!

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Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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This is a vast and tricky question. The business model has basically fallen out from under journalism, and especially this kind of labor-intensive investigative reporting. The media landscape is increasingly dominated by moneyed individuals and companies essentially buying up the discourse. I would really suggest subscribing to and finding ways to amplify independent outlets and journalists, and encouraging others to…

Got it! Any recommendations on who to subscribe to? Any personal links for you? In developer communities often you can support individual developers or groups through a monthly subscription / donation on their github page or similar.

Well, this piece was in The New Yorker, which is reasonably priced and regularly includes excellent investigative journalism. I get the physical copies, which can be too much to keep up with if you try to read everything, but it’s easy enough if you skim and just read the things that stick out as being of particular interest.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

Nice biography from Loopt to OpenAI. Why no mention of the Worldcoin cryptocurrency https://x.com/sama/status/1451203161029427208 in this piece? Was there nothing interesting to report in that area?

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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That they relate to the common person and aren't overly snobby?

Exactly. They share the cultural sensibilities of the average person on the street, and yet they're making decisions that will shape the world for future generations. I think that's bad. I want those decisions being made by people who have a more extensive cultural education. Snobs, if you want to call them that.

I'm confused as to what your point is. Employees refer to the incident as "the blip." I got no impression that there was a formal memo that went out to the company or the media at large that officially refers to the incident as the blip, merely that employees refer to it as a blip (likely to each other, not too dissimilar to a meme).

And while I don't think someone's media tastes ought to preclude them from making important decisions, I also disagree with your point at large. I don't think the world should be shaped by snobs. The world is already being shaped by snobs in other sense of the word, and I don't see any indication that it's any better than the alternative.

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