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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by zero_bias »

knollimar wrote: post #344
zero_bias wrote: post #289

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This won’t last for long too. Valve with SteamDeck and apparent future release of SteamMachine/SteamOS is preparing users for Linux gaming

is there any hope for linux native anticheat? I always felt like this was what was holding it back

That’s the question, yes.

The main issue is an ability to rebuild literally any part of the system from sources. A few changes here and there allow cheaters to bypass anticheat protection in a significant amount of ways

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by varjag »

simonw wrote: post #249

The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…

Copilot is Microsoft Watson.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by Barbing »

Lihh27 wrote: post #356
simonw wrote: post #249

The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…

It's a feature, not a bug. If nobody can pinpoint which instance is crashing, you can't confidently figure out if you need to cancel the $19/mo, the $30/mo, or the $39/mo SKU. Obfuscation as a service.

Quick cry for help, please someone help me cancel a stupid Office 365 subscription on an old credit card where the number changed and no longer have access to the email - their website possibly intentionally sucks considering the hours I’ve spent on this

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by Barbing »

idle_zealot wrote: post #311
simonw wrote: post #249

The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…

> I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! > If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. I think this is basically a rephrasing of the reason for the shared name. This appears to be an attempt at brand unification. Microsoft wants user's experienc…

If Satya predicted someone would map their frustration with his company['s naming] out like this, is there anything he could have done to prevent the embarrassment?

I see how excited the executives would get about one single interface for computing all locked behind the subscription. The article makes Microsoft look stupid. It's tough to believe they're doing it the best way. Was this really a necessary intermediate step? And haven't they burned the brand a good bit…

And apparently when the writing was on the wall however many months ago after they had 20 or 30 different copilots, they believed the best decision to be doubling down.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by xgulfie »

rzzzt wrote: post #325
cmsefton wrote: post #299

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What are being called GitHub Copilot Products seems to confuse products with licensing plan and features. I always think of GitHub Copilot as the product. I can purchase the Business or Enterprise plan. That enables features like Reviews, Chat and so on. IMO this chart (at least for GitHub Copilot) is confusing products, features and licensing. That's not to say it isn't confusing understanding what features are avai…

I agree, this looks like ~4 products expanded for comedic purposes: GitHub, Windows, Office (M365) and Azure has a thing that can be used for many things.

It must be intentionally obtuse, nobody could ever confuse copilot for copilot

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by saltwatercowboy »

Barbing wrote: post #365
idle_zealot wrote: post #311

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> I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! > If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. I think this is basically a rephrasing of the reason for the shared name. This appears to be an attempt at brand unification. Microsoft wants user's experienc…

If Satya predicted someone would map their frustration with his company['s naming] out like this, is there anything he could have done to prevent the embarrassment? I see how excited the executives would get about one single interface for computing all locked behind the subscription. The article makes Microsoft look stupid. It's tough to believe they're doing it the best way. Was this really a necessary intermediate…

Stupidity and avarice, despite being unsatisfying answers, are sometimes the correct ones.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by Barbing »

saltwatercowboy wrote: post #367
Barbing wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Satya predicted someone would map their frustration with his company['s naming] out like this, is there anything he could have done to prevent the embarrassment? I see how excited the executives would get about one single interface for computing all locked behind the subscription. The article makes Microsoft look stupid. It's tough to believe they're doing it the best way. Was this really a necessary intermediate…

Stupidity and avarice, despite being unsatisfying answers, are sometimes the correct ones.

This comment brought me a bit of that satisfaction instead, thanks :)

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by breakingcups »

rationalist wrote: post #196
Findecanor wrote: post #108

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"Microsoft Surface" ... If had first meant a coffee table form factor PC with touch screen and special software, which was able to sense special objects placed on top of it. Then that was renamed to "PixelSense" [1] and "Surface" instead got put on a line of touchscreen tablet form factor PCs launched together with Windows 8. OK, reusing a strong name for a product line expected to sell more, and which still fit the…

> a search for "surface keyboard", could result in a "type cover" for some kind of tablet PC or a keyboard intended for desktop computers. Do you mean blades ? Proof that I'm not hallucinating that name: https://www.windowscentral.com/meet-surface-music-kit-new-bl...

Oh, Blades, like the Xbox 360 Dashboard thing?

Or no, you must be referring to the Azure Portal sections.

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