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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by kennywinker »

throwawaypath wrote: post #354
kennywinker wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”. So what exactly is the problem with saying both bombing school children and machine gunning protestors is bad? Be specific.

>The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”. That was fake news, never happened. You've been duped by Russian and Iranian propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

Your link that supposedly says it never happened seems to say that it happened pretty much exactly as i described.

> Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counterprotesters.

> He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

If you are marching alongside nazis, at a march organized by neo-nazis, you’re a nazi. There are by definition no good people who march alongside nazis, so his (and your) attempt to differentiate falls flat.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by [deleted] »

JackFr wrote: post #240
10xDev wrote: post #112

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A double tap strike as well. Definitely no mistake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack Edit: *triple tap.

Triple tap seems to indicate definitely a mistake in targeting. Despite the war aims being nebulous, illegal, and ever changing, none of them would be advanced by bombing a girls school.

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by Pay08 »

jacquesm wrote: post #285
Pay08 wrote: post #242

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I'd love to read a proper analysis on Americans reducing race and racism to colouring books with pretty little lines. I did read one recently, but it put the onus for it entirely on BLM (since it was focused on a global scale), despite the phenomenon being far older than them. I do sometimes wonder how Americans would react if I told them the palest person I know is Iraqi.

It's statistics, not individuals. And I don't think BLM has anything to do with it other than that it is something that some people apparently find psychologically hard to deal with because they have arranged their lives in such a way that they only have 'whites' in their close environment. You can tell they misunderstood because of how it almost immediately led to 'Blue Lives Matter' and 'All Lives Matter' respectiv…

What is statistics?

BLM does have a lot to do with it, the George Floyd wave of protests popularised American racial ideas across Europe.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by Pay08 »

catlifeonmars wrote: post #287
Pay08 wrote: post #220

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That's not how mines work. They don't only explode on people you want them to explode on.

That’s not fundamental to how mines work. You could arm/disarm them remotely, either manually or via transponder. But I assume most mines are not like this.

The problem is that it's to my knowledge very difficult to know where maritime mines are, since they get swept around by currents.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by pjc50 »

bronco21016 wrote: post #345
_9hey wrote: post #290

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I’m trying to write a nuanced response but frankly it’s difficult. If they want freedom they should take it. The same way Ukraine is standing up to their bully and the same way countless other revolutionaries stood up. Behind the scenes help is perfectly ok. The colonists didn’t form America entirely on their own. I think where so many have issue with this war is that a couple of old men decided they would try to ove…

They did stand up, and they got machine-gunned.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by Pay08 »

lukan wrote: post #264
Pay08 wrote: post #253

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The school was next to a missile launcher. Iran bombed Israel in January as a distraction tactic during the protests.

The school was hit 3 times by precision rockets. The compound of the school physically separated from the military buildings since 10 years. Clearly visible on sat pictures. Trump's reaction? It could have been anyones Tomahawks missiles. Is that where your information comes from, that there was a missile launcher next to it? Oh and are you aware that Trump once said he will intentionally kill the families of terrori…

I was not saying that there was a problem with the rockets themselves. Any attack is a long process with a lot of stages, and something (in this case, probably the targeting) needs to go wrong.

And because I dislike a regime that wants to kill me, I must automatically worship Trump?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by sbuttgereit »

diath wrote: post #6
seydor wrote: post #2

Hormuz is not a minefield though. According to sources, ships are moving near the coast of Iran, according to other sources they are being charged $2M per passage. According to other sources only Yuan paid oil is allowed.

You can see for yourself if anything is passing: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:57.7/cente...

As others have mentioned, that's simply not going to tell you anything. AIS can and is often times turned off in such situations and it ships can spoof their location by sending false AIS... something that situations like could encourage, at least one could well imagine.

I find Sal Mercogliano's "What's Going on With Shipping?" to be a better source to understanding what's happening in the Strait. Here's a link to yesterday's episode "Strait of Hormuz 3-Week Recap | What is the Status of the Ships, Transits and Escort Mission?": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64cOs7GN_4

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by Pay08 »

torginus wrote: post #294
Pay08 wrote: post #220

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That's not how mines work. They don't only explode on people you want them to explode on.

I'm not a military guy, but I would think you can make mines nowadays that do exactly that.

With what communication protocol? Does high-frequency radio have the range for that?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by mikkupikku »

brightball wrote: post #260
mikkupikku wrote: post #241

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The real dangers to peace in the Middle East are America, Israel and historically the British, because these three are the bastards that toppled Iran's democracy and lead them to such a defensive posture in the first place. With the utmost respect, kindly blow your judeo-american sanctions out your ass. America should have NOTHING to do with Iran whatsoever, we don't have any moral right to intervention here.

It’s impossible to take anyone seriously who dismisses the threat of developing a nuclear weapon with intent to use it. Sponsoring and funding global terror networks is not a “defensive posture”. Giving speeches about nuking your enemy while secretly developing those capabilities isn’t either.

"Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran"

Gee, I wonder why they want nukes. Pity they didn't get them in time, this whole war might have been averted.

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