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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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There's another 1000+ "invaders took my shit" issues in the world. Your logic only leads to non-stop fights between everyone

There are no other countries in the world where the foreign invaders maintain an apartheid system over the native population. Only Israel does that, having one set of rights for the foreign invaders and another set of rights for the native Palestinians. Even the US allows native americans full citizenship.

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Yes, American police use these kinds of justifications when innocent people are killed too. It's absurd (watch Surviving Edged Weapons [0] some time) either way. The reality is, if you have soldiers mowing down children throwing rocks, mowing down families driving around, mowing down kids playing football, mowing down toddlers in their bedrooms, mowing down hundreds of people each year [1], you've over-indexed on vig…

When RLM enlightens on the police brutality roiling America, and entertains!

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The fuck are you on about? Pretty sure most niche places like Iceland or Costa Rica are not doing this, and every government on earth thinks of war as passe. Only defense companies who profit and religious fucking idiots like you think war is some necessary thing.

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You will never find a nation more illegitimate, manipulative and in control of the US government than Israel. I'm using my voice as a human to speak up and there are a rapidly dwindling number of Zionists. Israel will cease to exist as we know it very soon.

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What's surprising is how nonchalantly people like you suggest victims should just surrender and leave. Exactly the same thing was told to Ukrainians after the invasion. The fucking audacity you people have is staggering.

The audacity you have to encourage them to die for nothing is what's staggering.

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For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

A certain amount of politics should/must be tolerated on HN, because you cannot compartmentalize technology, politics and morality. No-one, not even people who say they like technology but do not care about politics, should be able to live their life wihtout knowing that we live in a world where six-year old blind children are murdered with automatic assault rifles. (For the same reason that no-one should be able to…

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Mainstream world news has a place on HN if it contains "significant new information", and as much as this site is primarily for curious conversation and gratifying intellectual curiosity, we don't want to pretend that horrific events like this aren't happening.

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A certain amount of politics should/must be tolerated on HN, because you cannot compartmentalize technology, politics and morality. No-one, not even people who say they like technology but do not care about politics, should be able to live their life wihtout knowing that we live in a world where six-year old blind children are murdered with automatic assault rifles. (For the same reason that no-one should be able to…

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Those stories aren't very visible because they are BS. Few people are dumb enough to think than a puppet government set up by an occupying force will improve their lives. Those dancers are either paid actors or not very bright.

The double standard I would like to see addressed is this: will any country have enough cojones to boycott the World Cup this year. My guess is no.

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In the 1200's British colonizers invaded Ireland, in 1920's the same colonial oppressors were moved to Palestine. Arthur Balfour was Chief Secretary for Ireland from 1887 till 1891 and it was his idea to create a Jewish state in Palestine. Ship out the jews, radicalize the natives, have the two of them fight for hundreds of years. It couldn't be a more British idea.

It was absolutely not Balfour's idea to create a Jewish state in Palestine. The Balfour declaration was from 1917. But the Zionists first started to move to the region in the hopes of establishing a homeland in the early 1880s, based on their belief that a Jewish state (anywhere; Argentina was another candidate) was necessary for their long-term survival due to the long history of antisemitism in Europe - getting wor…

> people vastly overstate the importance of it.

Fascinating, thanks for pointing this out.

> to characterize Israel as a British colony is to deny Jews agency. It is curiously antisemitic, even as it (implicitly) absolves them of some of the blame for how things have gone.

Some hill to die on.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Eh, tbh I've given up. Can't point out the terrible things that the IDF are up to without being labelled an apologist, or terrorist supporter, or just getting a massively negative reaction. Now I'm not one to fall prey to the conspiracy theories around Judaism...but like...is it not possible to say that both hamas and the IDF do terrible things? And that innocent civilians are caught in between, with the usual bad fa…

If you feel the need to temper your speech to avoid offending people you are using the wrong moral compass.

There are plenty of good reasons to speak carefully, thoughtfully and compassionately, but avoiding criticism is not a good reason.

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