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For me personally the most infuriating example of this is the Azure Updates[1] page, which in my job I need to check nearly daily to see what's reaching EoL, what's new, etc... A couple of years ago they redeveloped it as a SPA app. The original server-rendered version of it worked just fine , but it "had" to be made into an interactive client-side monstrosity that loads many times slower for "reasons". It doesn't ev…
GitHub also got infected with this horrible "JS SPA" disease shortly after MS bought them. Now you can't even browse files or view issues without it. If they can't get it right, who can!? Berkshire Hathaway, apparently: https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/ Pure content, not fluff, and even has a small but unobtrusive ad.
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It is an interesting view point. The core issue is journalists have just become middle-men in a free information era and demanding money for it. Like I said, what's to stop me (or someone) to simply write a crawler/agent that just gathers data on a bunch of sites where information is curated (like X, HN, Reddit) and presenting it to me in a readable format? I think people see this and hence the reluctance to pay. The…
> a free information era Not all information is out there for free, monetarily and in terms of personal liberty. News articles frequently quote "sources inside" some three letter agencies or major corporations who will face consequences if they speak to the public under their real names, and will be rightfully dismissed if spoken anonymously without a journalist being able to ascertain their identity . There is also…
Your argument just revolves around the edge cases of journalism and that's exactly my point. Many of the so-called "news" sites aren't that. They are just scraping off content on the internet and slapping ads over them. So many clones of Mashable, for instance.
>Most people, you likely included, do not even know what they are missing out when their local journalism collapses (again, due to loss of newspaper sell and classified ad revenues)
While there is some merit to this argument, not always. Most of what we read today are just the opinions of the news, rather than the actual news itself. The people giving their opinions on the news aren't even qualified in the subject matter to begin with. So, strictly speaking, if a news organization collapses - it's just survival of the fittest. It's a free market and if you don't add value, people will just move on.
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#364We put up with the nonsense because we had to. But the irony is content creators are actively driving their audience away.
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It does indeed work pretty well today, but they have already developed ways to circumvent it. For example, serving ads from the same domain as the main page.
AFAIK, YouTube has been doing that for years and uBlock has consistently adapted. It's also easier for Google to do that since it owns the ad network and doesn't need to verify ad prints are legitimate and not inflated by the third party that displays them.
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#366Author here. Woke up in today to see this on the front page, thank you to the person who submitted it! Initially, my biggest fear was the HN "Hug of Death" taking it down. Happily, Cloudflare's edge caching absorbed 19.24 GB of bandwidth in a few hours with a 98.5% cache hit ratio, so the origin server barely noticed. The discussions here about DNS-level blocking and Pi-hole are spot on. It's interesting that the bur…
Just wanted to say that article is so much deeper than it seems from the title, and also beautifully written. It was a great read!
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"…but no one at the NYT is losing any sleep over people like us." Likely not, but they are over their lost revenues. The profitability of newspapers and magazines has been slashed to ribbons over the past couple of decades and internet revenues hardly nudge the graphs. Internet beneficiaries are all new players, Google et al.
Likely not, but they are over their lost revenues. NYT's revenue and subscription base are both increasing quite well. Ad revenue was up 20%, and profit was up 26% in Q4. Revenue was over $700,000,000. 12,300,000 people pay for the New York Times.
Moreover, daily newspapers (the ones that have survived) are only about a third (or even less) as thick as they used to be in the 1990s, their classified ads are now almost nonexistent. And broadsheet format newspapers were kill off at the same time for the same reasons.
The internet has been devastating for the industry, ipso facto, the loss of revenues - both for physical print and online - has resulted lower journalistic standards hence the shithouse mess the publications industry is in today.
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I used the text web ( https://text.npr.org and the like) thru Lyx. Also, Usenet, Gopher, Gemini, some 16 KBPS opus streams, everything under 2.7 KBPS when my phone data plan was throttled and I was using it in tethering mode. Tons of sites did work, but Gopher://magical.fish ran really fast. Bitlbee saved (and still saves) my ass with tons of the protocols available via IRC using nearly nil data to connect. Also you…
Thank you for very interesting post) >I used the text web ( https://text.npr.org and the like) thru Lyx maybe you mean Linx or Links insted Lyx?
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It doesn't have to be that way, you can only push people so far before they riot. History has thousands of instances and many have been very ugly, 1789 and 1917 for instance.
People riot when they can't make ends meet, not when they can't install an app on their phone. Rioting is very costly.
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#370Author here. Woke up in today to see this on the front page, thank you to the person who submitted it! Initially, my biggest fear was the HN "Hug of Death" taking it down. Happily, Cloudflare's edge caching absorbed 19.24 GB of bandwidth in a few hours with a 98.5% cache hit ratio, so the origin server barely noticed. The discussions here about DNS-level blocking and Pi-hole are spot on. It's interesting that the bur…