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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by pixelatedindex »

the_overseer wrote: post #269
higgins wrote: post #206

the only thing i search for on these announcements is phone width. bring back the mini

No. It doesn't sell. You so called mini buyers never showed up except in forums making a lot of pointless noise. If you understand anything about how businesses work you would understand how useless your comment is.

I’m sure they showed up, but if you compare to the entire market size it’s a small size like maybe 10%. They should have calibrated their expectations, but they didn’t. Also the battery life on them aren’t as good as the regular.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by bubblewand »

layer8 wrote: post #156
dilyevsky wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you know this but it wasn't a physical button since i think iphone 7 - it was a haptic sensor.

True, and in my opinion it was a worse experience than the previous physical one.

I agree with this, while also thinking it was basically physical-enough that the home button still served the same UI purpose about as well as before. But yes it was a step down from the real button.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by gentleman11 »

thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

I'd still be using my iphone 5 if the battery didn't swell and if apps still worked with it and updates (sabotages) didn't slow it down so much

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by iso1631 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #298
drillsteps5 wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dived into a niche world of small phones recently while looking for replacement to malfunctioning Pixel 4a (which is apparently now considered compact phone). There's a few small manufacturers in China making some, with 4 inch or 5 inch screen, like Aiphor or Unihertz. And by "small" I mean "they use kickstarter to fund their R&D" small. Other than that... Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore, in t…

> Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore, in the US or in the rest of the world. Bummer. And the worst thing is that app developers do not bother with testing their apps on small phones. So even if someone would produce small phone, many apps would be broken on that UI. So there's no way back. PS 4 inch is not a small phone. iPhone 4S had 3.5" display and it wasn't small, it was normal. Small is someth…

I don't give a stuff about the vast majority of "apps". Webpages work fine.

Built in ones work fine - mail, safari, music, maps, photos

Major ones work fine - bbc sounds, slack+teams, whatsapp, various authenticator programs

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by carefree-bob »

danielvaughn wrote: post #61
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants.

You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, and I click on that -- I would like the app to open. Only happens about half the time now. UI is getting worse with every release.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by iso1631 »

normie3000 wrote: post #351
vbezhenar wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore, in the US or in the rest of the world. Bummer. And the worst thing is that app developers do not bother with testing their apps on small phones. So even if someone would produce small phone, many apps would be broken on that UI. So there's no way back. PS 4 inch is not a small phone. iPhone 4S had 3.5" display and it wasn't small, it was normal. Small is someth…

> All modern phones including these "iPhone Minis" are egregiously huge. Agreed - going from the original SE to the mini meant a big downgrade in usability for me, as it's now hard to reach the top of the screen.

My assumption is that very few people who like Dom Joly sized phones use them one handed

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by hnfong »

Gigachad wrote: post #300
MostlyStable wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I've never gotten a satisfactory answer as to why there aren't interesting niche phones that don't sell a ton (anymore: android used to be full of them, that was half the point), but are enough for a small company to make consistent (but small) profits. People who want niche phones are a tiny fraction of the market....but the smartphone market is enormous . A tiny fraction seems like it should be able to sustain a…

My guess is they are only able to make the phones cheap if it’s sold at huge scale. If you make some niche small phone, the price goes way up and doesn’t look attractive. Then you have to deal with the fact that the people with obscure requirements have a million other requirements. The person asking for a small phone then complains it doesn’t have a headphone jack, and AV1 decoding, and 16gb memory, and an unlocked…

Yeah, imagine being a small phone manufacturer today, trying to secure RAM supplies.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by iso1631 »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #245
strix_varius wrote: post #238

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You're being pretty defensive / aggressive about what some might call a phone addiction. Most on HN know the data: healthier people tend to enforce boundaries with their devices. The average person is addicted, yes, but I'm not sure being "the odd one" in an era of actually decreasing literacy and numeracy and attention span is the insult that you seem to think.

No I’m not living in some Luddite bubble. I am sure you’re also surprised that I’m not running Linux and using KDE Connect. Again, look at the statistics..

I was ready to agree with you, as that was my belief. (I also agree it's a sign of a dangerous addition, but just like everyone in the 60s smoked, everyone today use phones)

Then I cam across this, showing about even split between laptop and phone

https://tgmstatbox.com/stats/united-kingdom-device-usage-bre...

I'd assumed it was more like 80% phone

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by OccamsMirror »

thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

Likewise, am still holding on to my iPhone 13 Pro for the foreseeable future. Even with Liquid Glass destroying my battery life.

In fact, if this phone died, thanks to Liquid Glass I would likely go buy an Android phone. Maybe a Graphene OS phone from Motorola.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

nixpulvis wrote: post #272
joshstrange wrote: post #11

I'm glad they added MagSafe with this version, that was my biggest "issue" with the 16e. Thankfully you can add a ring to the back of the device to "give" it MagSafe (the magnets part at least, if not the faster charging).

Isn't it nice to have a USB-C port and then use the back panel inductive charging for this? I don't see why I would want magsafe on my phone at this point.

The biggest thing for me is not having a fragile connector involved when charging and using it at the same time. A MagSafe puck is super easy to charge your phone while browsing.
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