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Post by register »

Saline9515 wrote: post #333
register wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's another JD Vance who doesn't understand what international rules are and justifies that with (lack of) innovation Below you can find the relevant GDPR excerpt. But before that, let me add to the coment below that US companies only comply with what EU institutions can enforce and what suits them; which is normal, since China does the same. Well, it couldn’t have been said better: in fact, we’re beginning to vie…

First I'm not american, I'm simply displeased to see my fellow Europeans seething about the consequences, while refusing to address the causes. You speak about China: their government is very eager to favor local alternatives, which helps fund the local ecosystem. In contrast, Euro countries don't generally procure office software from elsewhere than US companies (especially, Microsoft). It's always talk, talk, when…

The point here isn’t that Europe lacks innovation and is too bureaucratic. I have no problem admitting that. The crux of the matter is that, in response to my complaint about the possible failure to comply with a European law, the reply was: LinkedIn answers to American laws, you have no alternative to LinkedIn, and therefore there’s no point in opposing it. You just have to put up with it; it’s your own fault for not innovating.

The scenario being portrayed is one in which the law of the strongest prevails over the rule of law. As a European, coming from the continent that gave birth to the rule of law, I find all of this appalling. And I am sorry to hear that a fellow European thinks along the same lines. I don’t believe this is realism; rather, it is surrender.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by barryhennessy »

aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

As an industry we really need a better way to tell what’s going g where than:

- someone finally reading the T&Cs

- legal drafting the T&Cs as broadly as possible

- the actual systems running at the time matching what’s in the T&Cs when legal last checked in

Maybe this is a point to make to the Persona CEO. If he wants to avoid a public issue like this then maybe some engineering effort and investment in this direction would be in his best interest.

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Post by gib444 »

PKop wrote: post #93
register wrote: post #63

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That response reeks of astonishing arrogance. It doesn’t surprise me that nearly 50% of Americans voted for Donald Trump he perfectly embodies that mindset. Do you genuinely believe you are superior to the rest of the world? What you call “innovation” or a “better product” is often nothing more than the creation of dominant market positions through massive, capital deployment, followed by straightforward rent extract…

The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must.

Indeed. But Americans are told they never use that strength to their advantage. It's all just the working 23 hours a day, determination and chasing the American dream that has resulted in supreme economic success.

Military is just for defence against baddies and liberating countries from dictators etc

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by anjel »

mati365 wrote: post #232
ColinWright wrote: post #20

I used to have a LinkedIn account, a long time ago. To register I created an email address that was unique to LinkedIn, and pretty much unguessable ... certainly not amenable to a dictionary attack. I ended up deciding that I was getting no value from the account, and I heard unpleasant things about the company, so I deleted the account. Within hours I started to get spam to that unique email address. It would be int…

ofc it's sold. Take a look at this: https://www.rb2b.com/ It identifies users that visit your site and then shows their email, phone number and living place based on their Li profile ;))

rb2b website has an incredibly ironic "we respect your privacy" GPDR banner along the bottom of their landing page.

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Post by [deleted] »

csmpltn wrote: post #188
gib444 wrote: post #57

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The "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps" advice has more weight when the person saying it hasn't taken control of all bootstraps for a good 75 years. This is this toxicity in the toxic relationship between the US and EU. Foot in our faces telling us to pick ourselves up. Ditto South America.

Victim mentality? Explain what stops Europe from producing a worthy LinkedIn competitor that challenges LinkedIn's hegemony.

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Post by x0x0 »

ColinWright wrote: post #20

I used to have a LinkedIn account, a long time ago. To register I created an email address that was unique to LinkedIn, and pretty much unguessable ... certainly not amenable to a dictionary attack. I ended up deciding that I was getting no value from the account, and I heard unpleasant things about the company, so I deleted the account. Within hours I started to get spam to that unique email address. It would be int…

It could be, but I think it's also as likely it was the scrapers treating that as a trigger event of some type. eg you got a job and might have regrets.

I also saw... not sure what to call them, but honeypot friend requests? I used to get regular requests from profiles I didn't recognize with a generic pretty woman (I'd assume stock photography). Since I ignored them, they would re-request on intervals that were exactly 90 or 180 days. I occasionally glanced at them and there seemed to be no rhyme nor reason to their friends. I'd assume this was also some type of scraping, probably for friends-only profile data.

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Post by gib444 »

poszlem wrote: post #58
csmpltn wrote: post #36

A good reminder of how things actually work, but the article could use some more balancing… > Let that sink in. You scanned your European passport for a European professional network, and your data went exclusively to North American companies. Not a single EU-based subprocessor in the chain. LinkedIn is an American product. The EU has had 20 years to create an equally successful and popular product, which it failed t…

I see this sentiment constantly. It is genuinely hilarious to watch Americans lecture the world about the free market while feigning shock that Europe hasn't produced its own tech giants. Claiming "the EU had 20 years to build an equally successful product" is the geopolitical equivalent of a deeply dysfunctional 1950s household. For decades, the husband insisted he handle all the enterprise and security so he could…

Very well said.

> To blame Europeans for playing the exact role the US forced them into is historical gaslighting.

Hear hear

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Post by JoshTriplett »

astura wrote: post #339
SilverElfin wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would we believe they are deleted after processing and not shared with the government?

What's the government going to do with a picture of the ID they, themselves issued to you?

Associate it with the specific service they don't want you using, or transactions they don't want you making, or conversations and connections they don't want you having.

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Post by danpritch »

po1nt wrote: post #352

>Count them. 17 companies. 16 in the United States. 1 in Canada. Zero in the EU. We regulated innovation out of the market. Why are you surprises that the only companies finding your data valuable are in the US?

Maybe it's just me but I don't count tracking people as innovation. Tell me what's innovative about it.
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