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Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by alecco »

jahnu wrote: post #264
dhosek wrote: post #176

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Other things that could get you on the registry include visiting a nude beach in California or being an 18-year-old high school student with a 17-year-old girlfriend and having your sexual activity discovered by a vindictive parent (that last one will get you the bonus bar of shame of criminal activity involving a minor). The registries are rather blunt tools and also end up doing things like making getting housing d…

Louis Theroux did a very interesting but quiet sad documentary on this https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b040qrxw

There's no BBC doc on how they (BBC) covered for Jimmy Savile for decades, though.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/sep/24/john-lydon-say...

“I’m very, very bitter that the likes of Savile and the rest of them were allowed to continue. I did my bit, I said what I had to. But they didn’t air that.”

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by LorenPechtel »

e40 wrote: post #305
dhosek wrote: post #176

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Other things that could get you on the registry include visiting a nude beach in California or being an 18-year-old high school student with a 17-year-old girlfriend and having your sexual activity discovered by a vindictive parent (that last one will get you the bonus bar of shame of criminal activity involving a minor). The registries are rather blunt tools and also end up doing things like making getting housing d…

How can visiting a nude beach get be a trigger?

Not all "nude" beaches are officially sanctioned.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by LorenPechtel »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #324
Ancapistani wrote: post #119

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I hav heard this many times, but never found a single example - and I’ve looked. Everyone I’ve researched on the registry richly deserved it. I challenge you and anyone else reading this to find an example of someone who is on the sex offender registry due to public urination.

Right, the registry is public in most places, you can just check. When I open it for some of the places I've lived & surrounding areas it is overwhelmingly very serious crimes, the majority of them against minors, a large percentage minors under 13 which is a different category of offense here. You sometimes need to get familiar with the local legal jargon to interpret it correctly, for example where I live there is…

I think you only see the high level offenders in the stuff you can search.

And you say it occurred in the middle of the afternoon at a city bus stop. Pretty hard to do anything serious there without a million people calling 911.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by LorenPechtel »

rectang wrote: post #353
expedition32 wrote: post #335

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They always know. My mother worked in mental healthcare and she's always told me that "the sisterhood" doesn't exist.

No, parents do not always "know" about child sexual abuse. I cited a study about this elsethread[1]. And "Lucy" was young (no older than 12, possibly as young as 7) when the rapes began, which correlates with a reluctance to disclose. It is possible that the mother knew, but it is far from certain. The article didn't provide that context, because it chronicled detective work that led through a different chain of clue…

There often is a realm where they should have known but didn't want to admit it to themselves.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by LorenPechtel »

Pay08 wrote: post #209
bloppe wrote: post #201

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95% of cases are settled before reaching jury trial. Usually a plea bargain for criminal cases. Settlement for civil cases. Or dismissal. The other 5% are expensive.

Would peeing in a bush be a criminal charge? I'm not American but I thought there was a difference between misdemeanors and "actual" crimes.

It's not the urinating part. It's the part where you expose the bit that does the urinating. And most places are bonkers about that.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by alwa »

88379937 wrote: post #171
rectang wrote: post #103

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> Frankly, I hope the mother was also charged. Would you want her charged if she didn't even know? There is nothing in the article suggesting that the mother conspired with her boyfriend, or that she even knew he was a sex offender. I can imagine a scenario where the mother blames herself for not knowing and is utterly destroyed by misplaced guilt. Who knows what actually happened? The article wasn't about that.

> Would you want her charged if she didn't even know? Yes? There are laws against child endangerment for a reason, and giving someone unrestricted accsss to your child without performing a basic background check very much falls into that territory.

I dunno. The skeeziest people I know would show up squeaky clean on paper, and several of the ones I trust the most have some kind of shit in their past, at least on paper.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by LorenPechtel »

interloxia wrote: post #199
4gotunameagain wrote: post #190

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It's not very wrong unfortunately. Do you remember back in school that the nice, timid guys were friendzoned but the assholes always had girls after them ? There must be some evolutionary justification, but we have to live with that unfortunate reality..

A different explanation that rings true to my experience is that people are drawn to confidence rather than a desire to be abused. Toxic abusers and high school garbage are good at signalling strength despite their poor character and choices.

Confidence and power.

And all too often they don't recognize until too late that that power will be turned on them.

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Post by LorenPechtel »

habinero wrote: post #282
4gotunameagain wrote: post #190

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It's not very wrong unfortunately. Do you remember back in school that the nice, timid guys were friendzoned but the assholes always had girls after them ? There must be some evolutionary justification, but we have to live with that unfortunate reality..

> nice, timid guys were friendzoned There's a reason why "nice guy" is a stereotype. The people who describe themselves like this aren't nice or timid, but insecure, angry and judgmental. They tell stories like "women like assholes" to avoid coming to terms with the idea that they're unlikable.

Note that "insecure" is not incompatible with "nice" and "timid". Doesn't make them unlikable.

And it's not that women like assholes. Rather, people (not just women) like the traits that let an asshole get away with being an asshole.

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Post by LorenPechtel »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #229
3rodents wrote: post #187

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“Woman are drawn to toxic abusers” That’s not true. Abusers are very capable at identifying and targeting vulnerable people. Abusers are drawn to vulnerable people.

Both statements can be true. Although the first is better phrased as drawn to traits that correlate with toxic abusers. You could similarly observe that social groups have a tendency to select toxic people for leadership roles. The explanations as to why are various but the end result is plain to see.

Perfect illustration. It's not a women thing, it's a people thing.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by coryfklein »

blell wrote: post #213
Tzela wrote: post #185

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"women are drawn to toxic abusers" is very, very wrong. It indicates a wish/desire/need to be abused. No, they are not drawn to that. Many abusers know how to look nice and perfect and are great at manipulation. Also, there may just be a lot of bad men in your social peer group. Don't make it sound like it's the womens fault.

It’s called “Hybristophilia” and it’s a well-known phenomenon.

Yes, but it's the overgeneralization to "women have hybristophilia" that is the problem.
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