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I'm forever baffled that GM gave up on Cruise just as soon as Waymo was proving that autonomous driving is feasible. (Disclaimer: former Cruise employee)
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No, I know how much each honeycomb costs (BOM cost, that is); pretty confident on the radars; and I can guess at the cameras and compute.
Then they're way behind others in the industry, and I'm not sure I believe that given the people I know there.
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Because camera only simply won't be reliable enough with current technology.
Technology is moving fast. When do you think it will be reliable enough?
If Tesla had been smart they would have used regular cameras and event based cameras where the pixels send a signal whenever their brightness changes enough. These can have microsecond latency. And multi spectral cameras. Combined this data would provide very rich data for neural networks.
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Tesla never had lidar so they didn't abandon it. Also, Tesla started FSD in 2016. The very core of their strategy was (and is) to sell $40k car with hardware capable of running FSD. Cameras are super cheap, FSD chip is reasonably inexpensive. Lidar is not. Maybe today the cost isn't completely prohibitive (I think it still is, because you need multiple lidars) but it certainly was for the first 8 years of FSD program…
> And given that in Austin they just reached parity with Waymo Tesla is far behind Waymo on all meaningful measures. Waymo sells more than 450k rides every week. Tesla is nowhere near that number. Waymo offers rides in six cities. Tesla does two. According to https://robotaxitracker.com/ Tesla has ~250 taxis in total. Waymo has +2500.
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$50k? The sensor kit on the Waymo’s ipace is north of $300k. (Which completely inverts that calculation)
You are either intentionally lying or very confident about facts you don't know. Could you please source your numbers?
I'm giving ballpark numbers because I am in this space and don't want to dox myself.
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> And given that in Austin they just reached parity with Waymo Tesla is far behind Waymo on all meaningful measures. Waymo sells more than 450k rides every week. Tesla is nowhere near that number. Waymo offers rides in six cities. Tesla does two. According to https://robotaxitracker.com/ Tesla has ~250 taxis in total. Waymo has +2500.
I hope they are both successful, find their own niche, and even more players enter the market.
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We should not forget this is the same company that had an amazing lead on everyone in the electric car market 3 decades ago with the EV1. See "Who Killed the Electric Car [0] [0] https://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/
replacing a gas engine with an electric motor and installing a battery pack is not hard. The EV1 was a pretty bad car. The real secret sauce of modern electric cars is cheap Lithium Ion battery packs.
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I’m imagining these vehicles on a sort of track, this way if the automation fails, it can still be guided. Also, the track could even potentially deliver power. The vehicle can be any number of connected pods.
I don't understand the sarcasm. Driverless trains for mass transit are in operation in lots of places around the world and have been for some time (eg the Docklands light railway in London) https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/dlr/ Driverless personal transportation is the unsolved problem.
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Every car is more affordable when you don't have to pay a human being to operate it. The difference in labor costs dwarfs the difference in vehicle costs.
Most cars don't have a paid driver. Uber, taxis, and trucking is a tiny minority of drivers.