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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Which it can’t. There is nothing to disagree about. With current demographics projection no amount of taxes can cover welfare states

The welfare state can not exist in world where the government is against population growth. You cant have a robust welfare state and make through policy and propaganda 4+ child families rare. We need an exponential curve of population to maintain it, especialy when its at european levels. Mass immigration of uneducated people from low income countries doesnt cover the gap, especially when the government extends welfa…

Well, those people are resistant to facts and logic.

But when you think about it, their survival depends on it, so it makes perfect sense. Most of those making those arguments have cushy bullshit jobs, completely dependent on stealing the work of others to live. Funnily enough, you would pay them to do nothing; it would be preferable for society because it would cost less money, and they wouldn't be able to create insane bureaucracy to satisfy their power trip.

But it doesn't matter; reality has a way to always catch up and expose the liars. The system is clearly unsustainable, and enemies have been probing for weakness for a while now. It's unclear how long we have left until a full-strength attack happens but it seems hard to avoid now.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

> industrial espionage claims ?? this is not true, please provide a source

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46929781

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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So I read up on this, and it would be great to learn more. Such as..

API & Third-party Integrations: Does La Suite expose APIs that allow integration with external tools and services?

What's the current roadmap for pre-built connectors or integrations with commonly-used government systems?

Cross-Tool Workflows: Beyond the "same interface" access, how seamlessly can users automate workflows across different La Suite tools?

For example, can a Visio meeting recording automatically trigger document creation in Docs, or data collection in Grist?

Does La Suite support webhooks, automation rules, or workflow orchestration (IFTTT-style logic) to reduce manual repetitive tasks?

Identity & Access Management Integration: Beyond ProConnect, can La Suite integrate with existing government LDAP/Active Directory systems for organizations with different identity providers?

Data Synchronization: Are there automated sync capabilities between Grist databases and other data sources, or between Fichiers and external file storage systems?

Export Format Coverage: The site mentions reversibility in standard formats (.ppt, .xls, .odt). Does this apply equally to all tools?

Specifically, what export formats are supported from Docs, Grist, and other collaborative tools?

Import Capabilities: Can users import content from competing tools?

For instance, can users migrate Grist tables from Excel with full formula preservation, or import documents from other collaborative platforms?

When collaborating in Docs or Grist, can users work with non-native file formats (e.g., editing .docx files directly without conversion loss)?

Metadata Preservation: Does La Suite preserve document metadata, formatting, comments, and revision history when exporting and re-importing files?

Interoperability with Open Standards: Beyond exporting to common formats, does La Suite use open file standards internally (e.g., ODF for documents, OpenDocument Spreadsheet for Grist)?

Lock-in Prevention: Are there documented procedures and guarantees for bulk data export in case an organization decides to migrate away from La Suite?

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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To work in French civil service (as a fonctionnaire ) you need to be a EU/EEA citizen but not necessarily French.

Interesting. Have you ever seen a non-French(/Walloon/Monegasque/French Swiss) person work in French civil service? I could see there being.. biases that make it much harder in practice. Not particular to France, but anywhere in Europe. My friend might just start brushing up on their French.

I would say that for most jobs you just need a work permit. Only when doing "core" tasks where one acts on state's authority the barriers are higher.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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They're being asked, in this case, to solve a problem that business has already shown able to solve. More competition will also solve that oligarchy problem too.

No, more competition does obviously NOT solve oligarchies. It is what we see RIGHT NOW. It is OUT THERE NOW. Oligarchs buy up competition and either incorporate their ideas or make them disappear if they threaten their established business models. Why are you keep repeating this myth? The only relevant player who might break up oligarchies before they become to powerful is the state they operate in.

> Why are you keep repeating this myth?

Why do you write like someone's crazy uncle on Facebook? The caps are inappropriate here, as is the hysteria and hyperbole.

> Oligarchs buy up competition

You realise that those advocating for free markets are against oligarchy, right? That they say that in most, if not all cases, regulatory capture and monopolies are the causes of lack of competition, right?

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

you know le suite is a success, when random americans complain about it :) good for the french, they made the right choice.

I'm a German resident on a track to be a citizen though. I am complaining because all these "EU independence efforts" are just posturing. I am all for European independence. However I am also aware that it takes quite a bit money and effort to make that happen.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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To make matters worse, they are using Django. I can't take the EU serious any more.

What issue do you have with Django? This is not a situation where you'll have thousands of people editing the same document, that'd be insane with Django for sure - but at general collaboration tooling with <100 (random number I made up) editing, Django is unlikely gonna be the bottleneck

My issue is latency. Django is extremely slow.
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